JFK What the doctors saw.....Parkland hospital

[Allan Fritzke]

Thanks Tom, I have no doubt that there the resulting spray deposited a fine coating on to the trunk of the Limo but there wasn't anything of any any size that can be seen in Zapruder and I also have no doubt that bits of brain were falling out of Kennedy all the way to Parkland and later this continued falling of matter from an open wound is what the Parkland doctors saw underneath Kennedy in Emergency and this is what Jackie held in her hand as she says she was trying to hold the top of Jack's head down.

The inside of Kennedy's Limo was covered with bits of Brain.



JohnM

One thing that may be noted is the direction of the bullet path and the fine mist spray as pointed out with your gel block analogous recreation.  The mist comes out of the entrance hole - not the exit hole with a small calibre round (.25ish).  That you could see.  I speculate that with blood pressure and skull cap surrounding, that it would be greatly enhanced before breaking apart.  Or was that a shaped type charge picture?  I see an explosion luminescence in the picture at the center of the gel mass!  you can clearly see the bullet "tumbling" out!

The Parkland Dr. McClleland that Mrs. Kennedy gave him a large portion of the cerebrum  He then commented a couple of minutes later in the film that another portion of the brain he called the cerebellum fell out on the table.  Certainly in the Zapruder film with Kennedy's head dropped forward, liquified brain matter was dropping to the front on some of the frames.  Watching that tells me the brain was totally a disintegrated gel block and was no longer held intact.   There mustn't have been much left on the right side. 

The doctors also noted that there was no damage to the face and yet on x-rays it appears to be a gaping hole in the orbital region.  There assessment was that all damage was at the back (hairline and beyond) with no major trauma to the nose and frontal occipital/eye regions visually.   Again, autopsy x-rays didn't match their visual observations!  It appears in the x-ray that even the nose bone was broken! 

[Jim Hawthorn]

We can add to this the embalmer's notes (I haven't research the LNer's counter-argument to this here).

[Jim Hawthorn]

These Bethesda notes also mention the area of the skull damaged:

"There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter."




Look where the occipital bone is folks - right at the back of the head!

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Steve: I think this is your link/file? This is, it seems to me, what Altgens was referring to when he said: "What made me almost certain that the shot came from behind was because at the time I was looking at the President, just as he was struck, it caused him to move a bit forward." Here we can clearly see that movement. Or I can.

 

[Royell Storing]

 Don't overthink things. Just permit your eyes to absorb the movements of Jackie and JFK. JFK's head is bobbing a tad forward due to Jackie Pulling DOWN on his arm.

[Steve Barber]

Steve: I think this is your link/file? This is, it seems to me, what Altgens was referring to when he said: "What made me almost certain that the shot came from behind was because at the time I was looking at the President, just as he was struck, it caused him to move a bit forward." Here we can clearly see that movement. Or I can.

 

Hi Steve, 

Yessir, that is the link I was trying to publish. I couldn't get the board to accept it.

The Nix film clearly shows the head moving forward and down with the bullet strike. 

Thank you so much for posting this.   

[Steve Barber]

Don't overthink things. Just permit your eyes to absorb the movements of Jackie and JFK. JFK's head is bobbing a tad forward due to Jackie Pulling DOWN on his arm.

Look who's talking about overthinking.

Yes, Mrs. Kennedy is slightly moving JFK as she leans forward to look at something, but in order for her to cause such a sudden movement of JFK's head as we see in the films, we would see her violently tug on his arm in order to cause the type of movement we are are seeing of the head.  Your idea is absurd.