RIP to the Single-bullet theory?

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2023, 07:01:23 PM »
Come on Charles. I know you're aware that the NY Times has tended to promote the official narrative about the Kennedy assassination. They don't typically boost JFK conspiracy books.

Do you think the Times did nothing at all to determine whether or not Landis is a credible witness before publishing their article?

To me, given their history, it's significant that they are taking his book and his claim seriously. And the rest of the news media seems to be following the lead of the NY Times on the Landis story.

Again, it's possible that he could be misremembering some things. But we don't know enough to conclude that it's a hoax and Landis is just doing this to sell a book. Time will tell...

Frankly, the fact that he was one of the Secret Service agents assigned to Jackie Kennedy instantly makes him and his outlandish story newsworthy. They’re in the business of selling newspapers. That doesn’t necessarily mean they agree with his morphed account.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2023, 07:17:50 PM »
I noticed Phyllis Hall said she saw what she described as an exit wound in JFK’s throat. That would make the shallow back of neck wound theory invalid. Also, she said that she hasn’t seen a photo of the bullet she claims to have seen on the stretcher. Has she seen a photo of CE399 and does she claim the bullet she saw was different? If so, her account definitely does not cooborrate Landis’ outlandish story.

Just looking back at the Phyllis Clark video, it's clear that she saw the bullet on the trolly next to Kennedy's head while it was on the way to the Emergencies room - so I'd say there was no time for a deliberate plant by Ruby or anyone else. I've also ruled out Landis's story so that would only leave the theory of the shallow back wound splurging out the bullet when Kennedy was put on his back on the stretcher...BUT she noticed that exit wound at the throat! Hells bells.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2023, 07:25:44 PM »
Just looking back at the Phyllis Clark video, it's clear that she saw the bullet on the trolly next to Kennedy's head while it was on the way to the Emergencies room - so I'd say there was no time for a deliberate plant by Ruby or anyone else. I've also ruled out Landis's story so that would only leave the theory of the shallow back wound splurging out the bullet when Kennedy was put on his back on the stretcher...BUT she noticed that exit wound at the throat! Hells bells.

Dr. Malcolm Perry said it was an "entry wound" (before changing his mind later).

I don't know if Phyllis was qualified to determine whether it was an entry or exit wound.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2023, 07:36:27 PM »
Just looking back at the Phyllis Clark video, it's clear that she saw the bullet on the trolly next to Kennedy's head while it was on the way to the Emergencies room - so I'd say there was no time for a deliberate plant by Ruby or anyone else. I've also ruled out Landis's story so that would only leave the theory of the shallow back wound splurging out the bullet when Kennedy was put on his back on the stretcher...BUT she noticed that exit wound at the throat! Hells bells.


There are so many accounts of witnesses that are not consistent with each other. Anyone who has a theory can typically find at least one account that seems to support their theory, no matter how outlandish it may be. Follow the evidence and give the accounts that tend to agree with the evidence more weight than accounts that have no evidence to support them. Example: the clothing that JFK was wearing supports an exit wound in the throat.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2023, 07:50:17 PM »

There are so many accounts of witnesses that are not consistent with each other. Anyone who has a theory can typically find at least one account that seems to support their theory, no matter how outlandish it may be. Follow the evidence and give the accounts that tend to agree with the evidence more weight than accounts that have no evidence to support them. Example: the clothing that JFK was wearing supports an exit wound in the throat.

I agree and it would seem to prove that the throat exit it was exit of that upper back entry shot. So explaining the bullet lying there next to his head is a real conundrum.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2023, 08:11:25 PM »
Frankly, the fact that he was one of the Secret Service agents assigned to Jackie Kennedy instantly makes him and his outlandish story newsworthy. They’re in the business of selling newspapers. That doesn’t necessarily mean they agree with his morphed account.

That wasn't my point. The point is that they are at least treating him as credible. Which they don't typically do with books that go into JFK assassination conspiracy territory.  Do you think the Times didn't do their due diligence and ask people if Landis is senile or has a history of lying or exaggerating before running that article? This isn't anything like Tucker Carlson saying a friend told him the CIA killed JFK.

But IMHO, the Vanity Fair article on Landis is better written and has more details than Pete Baker's NY Times article. That's why I cited the VF article in the original post.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2023, 08:12:27 PM »
I agree and it would seem to prove that the throat exit it was exit of that upper back entry shot. So explaining the bullet lying there next to his head is a real conundrum.

Not really, she’s apparently the only one who thinks she saw it. None of the other people who were there have said anything about seeing it. There’s nothing to support her account. She apparently misremembered it.