Morphing Memories

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2023, 09:56:43 PM »
Morphing memories (as I am defining them) are ones that change character entirely. I am not interested in memories in which small details might be misremembered because that is normal for us humans. For an example of a morphing memory, as I define it, if Buell Frazier had really seen LHO walking up Houston Street after the assassination, I don’t think that there is any way he could have forgotten that when he swore that he didn’t see LHO after 11:00 am when he made his affidavit on 11/22/63.
Also, the WC testimonies included questions by the investigators which were meant to bring out additional details that might not have been included in earlier statements. So, that type of thing isn’t really a morphed memory, as I am defining it.

In 1968, during an interview (along with Penn Jones) with the L.A. Free Press, Roger Craig was asked about the Tippit shooting.  Craig told the interviewer that the shooting occurred at 1:45.

Jones immediately corrected Craig, informing him that the shooting occurred around 1:15.  Craig responded with "Oh?  Is that right? Okay." (or words to that effect, I'm going by memory)

The bottom line is, in 1968, Craig obviously had no idea what time the Tippit shooting occurred.

Then, in the early 70's when writing his manuscript, Craig tells the story of being in Dealey Plaza and hearing of the shooting of the police officer in Oak Cliff.  In the scenario, Craig supposedly looks at his watch and notes that it said the time was 1:06.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2023, 12:10:31 AM »
Sounds like Roger Craig doesn’t meet Charles’ (arbitrary) standard of excluding “memories in which small details might be misremembered”.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2023, 12:24:20 AM »
Before he was shot in the head, Warren Reynolds told the FBI that he was "of the opinion" that the man he saw was Oswald.

Here’s the part Bill conveniently left out:

“however, he would hesitate to definitely identify OSWALD as the individual.”

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2023, 12:26:01 AM »
Certainly Buell could have forgotten he had seen Lee for a brief moment in his one time answer on an affidavit.
I was referring to his consistency regarding the bag he saw. I'm not aware of that story changing in 60 years.

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Buell Frazier didn’t say a word about supposedly seeing LHO on Houston Street after the assassination until he wrote a book fifty something years later and was trying to sell it. Yes, he has been consistent regarding the size of the bag. But that is not the same as being correct.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2023, 12:30:25 AM »
Here’s the part Bill conveniently left out:

“however, he would hesitate to definitely identify OSWALD as the individual.”

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The FBI just couldn't get Mr. Reynolds to make a positive identification of Mr. Oswald as the individual.

Two days later, Mr. Reynolds was shot in the head.

Thereafter, Mr. Reynolds was miraculously able to make a positive identification of Mr. Oswald as the individual.

Though he did, in fairness, try to hedge it a little:

Mr. LIEBELER. You later identified that man as Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr.REYNOLDS. In my mind.
Mr. LIEBELER. Your mind, that is what I mean.
Mr.REYNOLDS. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. When you saw his picture in the newspaper and on television? Is that right?
Mr.REYNOLDS. Yes; unless you have somebody that looks an awful lot like him there.
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Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2023, 12:31:35 AM »

Buell Frazier didn’t say a word about supposedly seeing LHO on Houston Street after the assassination until he wrote a book fifty something years later and was trying to sell it. Yes, he has been consistent regarding the size of the bag. But that is not the same as being correct.

Are we talking about stories that morph or minor details changed, that don't really matter?

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2023, 12:35:00 AM »
Mr. LIEBELER. And you never saw Oswald continue on down the street--on down Jefferson or go in the Texas Theatre, and you never told the police that he had gone in that direction, did you?
Mr.REYNOLDS. I told the police he was going in that direction.
Mr. LIEBELER. He was going--you told the police he went into the parking lot, or what did you tell him?
Mr.REYNOLDS. That he was going west. I told them that he was going west, and I had assumed that he just cut through the parking lot and kept going the general direction he was going in.


As Mr. Dale Myers has shown, Mr. Reynolds is not being wholly truthful here: what he actually told the police was that he had seen the man go into the second-hand furniture store

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