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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #133 on: August 31, 2023, 01:24:45 AM »
Fact is that Drain signed an affidavit while Day was unwilling to do so.

One would think that when handing off a key piece of evidence that a  print had been lifted from , that some kind of Note or document would have  been included with the item so that even if Drain did  not HEAR Day say anything, that Drain would still be informed and or FBI informed by the attached note.


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2023, 04:14:52 AM »
I'm confused, Walt. Isn't the print supposed be have come from a metal part of the rifle that can only be reached when the rifle is disassembled? Doesn't that mean that Day must have taken the rifle apart at the TSBD?

Or is it your opinion that the print came from somewhere else?

The so called "Palm Print" was discovered on the rifle by detective Day IN THE TSBD  when he was dusting the rifle for finger prints just minutes after it was removed from BENEATH the pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it.   Day knew that the logical place to look for a palm print was on the foregrip of the rifle so he concentrated his search in that area with his magnifying glass. He found a smudge that he thought could be a print  but he wanted to exam that smudge in the lab. He knew that the wood of the foregrip could absorb the oil from the "print" so he lifted that "print" and placed it on a small white card, as Tom Alyea watched.  He jotted down the pertinent data about the "print" on the white card.

THAT is the source of the so called Palm Print  and that's why the FBI could find no trace of a print on the metal barrel and they could find no evidence that a lift had been made from the metal barrel.    BUT they needed "something" to link that rifle to Lee Oswald so they concocted  the stupid story that 99% of researchers believe. 

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #135 on: August 31, 2023, 10:17:33 AM »
The so called "Palm Print" was discovered on the rifle by detective Day IN THE TSBD  when he was dusting the rifle for finger prints just minutes after it was removed from BENEATH the pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it.   Day knew that the logical place to look for a palm print was on the foregrip of the rifle so he concentrated his search in that area with his magnifying glass. He found a smudge that he thought could be a print  but he wanted to exam that smudge in the lab. He knew that the wood of the foregrip could absorb the oil from the "print" so he lifted that "print" and placed it on a small white card, as Tom Alyea watched.  He jotted down the pertinent data about the "print" on the white card.

THAT is the source of the so called Palm Print  and that's why the FBI could find no trace of a print on the metal barrel and they could find no evidence that a lift had been made from the metal barrel.    BUT they needed "something" to link that rifle to Lee Oswald so they concocted  the stupid story that 99% of researchers believe.

So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

Online John Mytton

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #136 on: August 31, 2023, 10:59:19 AM »
So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

Well duh, of course Oswald's print was on Oswald's rifle, whose print would you expect to see, perhaps the Pope, Elvis Presley or the Queen of England? Hahaha!

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #137 on: August 31, 2023, 01:55:08 PM »
So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

NO!  Emphatically NO!

Detective Day saw a SMUDGE on the wooden foregrip that he imagined to be a palm print while dusting the rifle in the TSBD.   He lifted that SMUDGE "Palm print" wit scotch tape as Tom Alyea watched.   He placed the lifted smudge on a small white  card ( Now know as CE 639).  He turned that white card, along with all of the evidence, over to FBI agent Vince Drain at midnight on 11/22/63.   The FBI were unable to find a useful print on that card.


But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD. and concoct the tale about Day disassembling the rifle and lifting that print from the metal barrel of the carcano.     

A person can't believe a damned thing the police said about the evidence most of it is created by the lies.

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #138 on: August 31, 2023, 10:45:12 PM »
But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD

Mr. Cakebread, are you saying they used photographic trickery to superimpose Mr. Oswald's palm print onto the smudge on Lt. Day's white card--------and the result was CE639?
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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #139 on: August 31, 2023, 11:11:08 PM »
NO!  Emphatically NO!

Detective Day saw a SMUDGE on the wooden foregrip that he imagined to be a palm print while dusting the rifle in the TSBD.   He lifted that SMUDGE "Palm print" wit scotch tape as Tom Alyea watched.   He placed the lifted smudge on a small white  card ( Now know as CE 639).  He turned that white card, along with all of the evidence, over to FBI agent Vince Drain at midnight on 11/22/63.   The FBI were unable to find a useful print on that card.


But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD. and concoct the tale about Day disassembling the rifle and lifting that print from the metal barrel of the carcano.     

A person can't believe a damned thing the police said about the evidence most of it is created by the lies.

Thanks for the explanation, Walt.

I wasn't aware of that scenario and, honestly, it seems somewhat far fetched. What is your source for this?