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Offline Dickie Felder

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2023, 05:43:06 AM »
Dickie, you may want to watch the film The Good Shepherd. Although a work of fiction, it kind of shows you how the good old boys network has always worked in the State Department and CIA.

I'm not saying either of those agencies were involved in Kennedy's murder. But I am saying that a legend was already built for Oswald. They even had a photo of him and his hot sexy Russian wife upon his return waving and smiling. I mean, really? Yes, he returned way before 11/22 but they were building a legend for some type of use for him later. And there's not doubt in my mind that this happened with other low-level intel folks too. Not for Kennedy's murder but for whatever they may find useful for them. I'm sure the others just faded into the background when they were never used.

But that's obviously not the case with Oswald. He ended up being the perfect foil. I used to think Ruby shot Oswald because Lee knew all about the murder. Another researcher has now convinced me otherwise - that Lee knew absolutely nothing about what was going to happen on 11/22. He was, though, a low-level intel guy running around, doing the fake leaflet handing in NO and so on. There's no doubt that this would have come out eventually, so he needed to be silenced. How would it look if the so-called madman Commie was also doing intel work? After all, he was supposed to only be a Marxist warehouse worker looking for fame, right?

Yes. The Good Shepherd is such a good movie Michael. I just watched it again a couple of weeks ago with my son.

I'm on chapter 3 of Bill Simpich State Secret. Lots of interesting information.


Offline Jon Banks

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2023, 04:16:14 PM »
It doesn’t make sense unless Oswald was a schizo who didn’t know that JFK WAS keeping hands off Cuba and JFK DID give a big speech implying more cooperation with USSR to prevent future conflict was possible.

And Oswald must not have known that LBJ had a much more war hawk attitude towards USSR and Cuba than JFK
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I believe Oswald, like most Americans, assumed that LBJ was a bigger anti-communist Cold War hawk than JFK.

LBJ also was known to have previously supported segregation, something that Lee strongly opposed based on his writings and things he told people close to him. No one predicted that Johnson's Presidency would be as good for the Civil Rights movement as it became.

Civil Rights was one of the areas where Oswald approved of JFK's policies. Kennedy didn't live to see the 1964 Civil Rights Act passed but the groundwork for that legislation began being layed during his Presidency.

Also worth mentioning that AG Robert Kennedy hated Gen. Edwin Walker and tried to have him committed to a mental institution. Dislike of Gen. Walker is another point where Oswald agreed with Kennedy.
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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2023, 09:28:24 PM »
 Not sure what  Mr Myttons  opinion about the newspaper article is so I will have to guess that the relevance is that Oswald read the article and concluded that despite an earlier speech by JFK suggesting an attitude of cooperation with the U.S.S.R. to avoid future nuclear conflict , Oswald concluded JFK was another Walker that needed to be shot .

Online Jarrett Smith

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2023, 09:28:58 PM »
I've been lurking on this forum for a while, and finally decided to participate. I've read numerous threads, read a lot of comments from LNs claiming that LHO was a loner seeking fame, wanted to make a name for himself, wanted to go down in history, would have shot any president given the chance, etc. etc.

If this was the case, then why would he deny his involvement? Why not just come right out and say "Yep, I did it." Why all the denials on camera and in the supposed interrogations?

I'm not saying this proves he's innocent or anything, it just doesn't make any sense to me for this given theory. Any thoughts?

I'm a lurker as well, but I think the mafia was behind the shooting and yes Oswald fired the shots. He wanted the fame and they wanted JFK dead. Of course they could not take any chances of Oswald squawking and Ruby was sent in to silence him forever.

All that other garbage on coverups, frontal shots, and stuff is BS.

My opinion

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2023, 11:34:59 PM »
Not sure what  Mr Myttons  opinion about the newspaper article is so I will have to guess that the relevance is that Oswald read the article and concluded that despite an earlier speech by JFK suggesting an attitude of cooperation with the U.S.S.R. to avoid future nuclear conflict , Oswald concluded JFK was another Walker that needed to be shot .

Walker and JFK were polar opposites politically. No reason to assume that of Oswald.

"In September 1961 Walker organized the protests against the enrollment of James Meredith at the University of Mississippi. Another incident the following year resulted in two reporters being killed. Attorney General Robert Kennedy responded by issuing a warrant for Walker's arrest on the charges of seditious conspiracy, insurrection, and rebellion.

Walker now became a leading figure in the fight against what he considered to be the liberal establishment. Based in Dallas, he gave many speeches around the country denouncing communism and liberalism. In February 1962 Walker stood for governor of Texas. Although he gained the support of Barry Goldwater, Walker finished last and John Connally went on to be governor".


https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKwalker.htm


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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2023, 12:44:39 AM »
@Mr. Banks: I generally agree with you and that’s why it seems unlikely to me that Oswald would , if he had earlier (theoretically) held a favorable opinion of JFK because JFK was doing things that Oswald would have approved of, that Oswald would suddenly flip his opinion and be enraged by just one newspaper article.
And enraged enough that he would contemplate shooting JFK.
That is, presuming Oswald was NOT suffering  from a bipolar disorder or some other metal problem.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2023, 12:56:56 AM »
Not sure what  Mr Myttons  opinion about the newspaper article is so I will have to guess that the relevance is that Oswald read the article and concluded that despite an earlier speech by JFK suggesting an attitude of cooperation with the U.S.S.R. to avoid future nuclear conflict , Oswald concluded JFK was another Walker that needed to be shot .

Oswald was a political kook.  He had demonstrative a willingness to commit a political assassination with Walker.  That is a big step separating him from 99% of other loons.  Oswald selected Walker because of his right-wing views and he was a target of opportunity because he lived in Dallas.  JFK was largely a target of opportunity because he literally came to Oswald.  Oswald did not select him.  JFK, as president of the United States, literally drove by Oswald's place of employment in an open car.  Oswald must have thought he was the luckiest guy in the world.  The opportunity to kill the head of the political system that he despised dropped right into his lap.