The Walker Case

[Martin Weidmann]

Btw, is this your silly attempt to avoid dealing with everything else I wrote in my post?


I don’t remember seeing anything else that pertains to the Walker case.

BS... it pertains to the reliability of CE2011, on which you rely for your position in the Walker case. That's why John mention Odum and CE399. If the FBI can misrepresent an encounter that never happened, in an "official" report written by an unknown author, they can easily do the same in the Walker matter. That's the whole point.

[Martin Weidmann]

And Oswald's fingerprints weren't on the note.

Paper absorbs the oils that fingerprints consist of. They don’t last very long because of this. LHO reportedly hadn’t seen the note in many months because Marina hid it from him soon after the Walker incident. We therefore would not expect to see any of LHO’s fingerprints on that piece of paper. And the fact that none were found only supports Marina’s testimony.

Are you aware of the memo written by Latoya to Mr. Trotter and other officials at the FBI, dated 12/5/63, in which he writes that seven latent fingerprints found on the letter (the Walker note) and none was identical with the fingerprints of Lee Harvey Oswald or Marina Nikolaevna Oswald?

[Charles Collins]

This is what happens when you don't do your research and just claim things;

Stymied, author Aguilar turned to his co-author. “What does Odum have to say about it?” Thompson asked.

“Odum? How the hell do I know? Is he still alive?”

“I’ll find out,” he promised.

Less than an hour later, Thompson had located Mr. Bardwell Odum’s home address and phone number. Aguilar phoned him on September 12, 2002. He was still alive and well and living in a suburb of Dallas. The 82-year old was alert and quick-witted on the phone and he regaled Aguilar with fond memories of his service in the Bureau.  Finally, the Kennedy case came up and Odum agreed to help interpret some of the conflicts in the records. Two weeks after mailing Odum the relevant files – CE  # 2011, the three-page FBI memo dated July 7, 1964, and the “FBI AIRTEL” memo dated June 12, 1964, Aguilar called him back.

Mr. Odum told Aguilar, “I didn’t show it [#399] to anybody at Parkland. I didn’t have any bullet … I don’t think I ever saw it even.”  [Fig. 11] Unwilling to leave it at that, both authors paid Mr. Odum a visit in his Dallas home on November 21, 2002. The same alert, friendly man on the phone greeted us warmly and led us to a comfortable family room. To ensure no misunderstanding, we laid out before Mr. Odum all the relevant documents and read aloud from them.

Again, Mr. Odum said that he had never had any bullet related to the Kennedy assassination in his possession, whether during the FBI’s investigation in 1964 or at any other time. Asked whether he might have forgotten the episode, Mr. Odum remarked that he doubted he would have ever forgotten investigating so important a piece of evidence. But even if he had done the work, and later forgotten about it, he said he would certainly have turned in a “302” report covering something that important. Odum’s sensible comment had the ring of truth. For not only was Odum’s name absent from the FBI’s once secret files, it was also it difficult to imagine a motive for him to besmirch the reputation of the agency he had worked for and admired.

https://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/EvenMoreMagical.htm

This is what happens when you don't do your research and just claim things;


I asked for details to support claims made by you and John. You provide bits and pieces instead of laying it all out.

[Charles Collins]

BS... it pertains to the reliability of CE2011, on which you rely for your position in the Walker case. That's why John mention Odum and CE399. If the FBI can misrepresent an encounter that never happened, in an "official" report written by an unknown author, they can easily do the same in the Walker matter. That's the whole point.

Suspicions is all you have. A faulty memory and some “missing” documents does not in any way prove any misrepresentation by the FBI.

[Charles Collins]

Are you aware of the memo written by Latoya to Mr. Trotter and other officials at the FBI, dated 12/5/63, in which he writes that seven latent fingerprints found on the letter (the Walker note) and none was identical with the fingerprints of Lee Harvey Oswald or Marina Nikolaevna Oswald?

Do you think that everyone that handled the note after it was discovered used gloves or other devices so that they didn’t leave any fingerprints? Apparently neither Marina or LHO had handled the note in many months. Which goes to support the fact that fingerprints do not last very long on paper.

[Richard Smith]

Do you think that everyone that handled the note after it was discovered used gloves or other devices so that they didn’t leave any fingerprints? Apparently neither Marina or LHO had handled the note in many months. Which goes to support the fact that fingerprints do not last very long on paper.

And, of course, if Oswald's prints were found on the note (as they were on the rifle etc), Martin would be claiming it was the product of fabrication.  It's the endless loop of rabbit hole contrarian lunacy.  Here we are to believe that the conspirators fabricated this note to incriminate Oswald in the Walker shooting (completely unnecessary after he was dead and the authorities were satisfied of his guily for the JFK assassination) but they didn't make the note more explicit or claim that they found his prints on the note. 

[Martin Weidmann]

This is what happens when you don't do your research and just claim things;


I asked for details to support claims made by you and John. You provide bits and pieces instead of laying it all out.

Nope, the details were laid out to you and you just ignored them.

Suspicions is all you have. A faulty memory and some “missing” documents does not in any way prove any misrepresentation by the FBI.

And this the reason why you ignored them; it's easier to just dismiss something when you don't have to deal with the facts

Too bad you even have to misrepresent the details to get to this point.

There is no evidence to support your conclusion that Odum (I presume you are talking about him) had a faulty memory, other than - of course - your biased opinion

And there are no "missing documents". What there is, is an Airtel from SAC Shanklin that does not match what the FBI told the WC in CE2011.

But you don't want to know that, right?

You don't want to know that Tomlinson is on record twice saying that the only person who ever showed him a bullet was SAC Shanklin in December 1963, nor do you want to know that Wright is on record saying that the bullet now known as CE399 isn't the pointed bullet he received from Tomlinson. You couldn't care less that Odum stated he never showed any bullet to anybody, nor that there is no FD 302 for that alleged encounter and you certainly don't care that SAC Shanklin never mentioned Odum in his Airtel and gave a different version from what is written in CE2011.

This is the kind of ignorance that the WC and Hoover wanted people to have to sell their fairytale to.