The Walker Case

[Martin Weidmann]

Btw, where would somebody go to make a statement on the record about what is written in a FBI report that's locked away for many years in the National Archives?

CE 2011 was published for the public shortly after the release of the Warren Report in 1964 (volume XXIV, page 411). It was not locked away in the national archives for “many years”.

All WC files were declared secret and locked away for 75 years at the National Archives. That includes the originals of all pieces of evidence.

The WC volumes only show reproductions.

[Charles Collins]

The researcher hasn’t been identified in this thread.

So what? If you knew who he was you wouldn't have asked....

Anyway, the researcher was Gary Aquilar and he talked to Odum on September 12, 2002

Perhaps this helps you understand (although I doubt it);

https://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/images/Slide11.GIF

https://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/images/Aguilar-Tilley_3-7-2005.pdf

I don’t have any problem understanding. I just asked for some details that I consider important.

However, it does appear that in 2002, Odum was having trouble understand anything that Aguilar said. Are there more pages to the telephone conversation transcript that you can show us?

[Martin Weidmann]

I don’t have any problem understanding. I just asked for some details that I consider important.

However, it does appear that in 2002, Odum was having trouble understand anything that Aguilar said. Are there more pages to the telephone conversation transcript that you can show us?

How does it appear that Odum was having trouble understand what Aguilar said?

He clearly states that he never went to Parkland and never showed any bullet to anybody. There is no misunderstanding whatsoever, but I can understand why you would want to create one.

[Martin Weidmann]

Let's back this up a bit;

I asked you; 

What makes you think that Odum even knew about what some unknown FBI employee wrote in a report?

In two posts you stated that in your opinion it is reasonable that Odum agreed with the report and must have read the report.

If Odum actually did go on record regarding an incorrect item, but Odum didn’t go on record with a need to make any corrections to what the official FBI report said about the Walker bullet identification, then I think it stands to reason that Odum must have agreed with the report regarding the Walker bullet. YMMV

John’s claim states that Odum said part of the report was incorrect. It is reasonable to believe that if this is true that Odum must have actually read the report. If you can show that Odum didn’t read the report then you might have a point.

Now, leaving your biased opinion aside for a moment, what do you have to show that Odum did in fact read the report before it was submitted to the WC?

[Charles Collins]

How does it appear that Odum was having trouble understand what Aguilar said?

He clearly states that he never went to Parkland and never showed any bullet to anybody. There is no misunderstanding whatsoever, but I can understand why you would want to create one.

I would like to see the entire conversation before commenting further. The most glaring item so far appears to be Aguilar’s admission that he failed to send Odum the FBI report in question (CE2011). Odum was a senior agent in 1963 per Hosty in his book “Assignment Oswald”. 2002 is almost 40-years after the time frame in question. How was Odum to know what the heck Aguilar was talking about? I suspect Odum probably thought Aguilar was asking about events on 11/22/63 (not June of 1964). After all, Odum asked if Aguilar was one of the doctors.

CE2011 is the FBI’s official response to a letter from a presidential commission to the head of the FBI (JEH). Therefore it is reasonable to believe that CE2011 would be accurate. After all, most people working for the FBI wanted to keep their jobs, so the last thing they would want is the wrath of JEH, etc for getting something wrong. On the other hand, it appears that you and John put your faith in a portion of a unauthenticated,  unplanned, and unprepared for (by Odum at least) telephone conversation between an apparently inept “researcher” and an old man about details from almost 40-years earlier. 

[Charles Collins]

All WC files were declared secret and locked away for 75 years at the National Archives. That includes the originals of all pieces of evidence.

The WC volumes only show reproductions.

WTF is the problem. Are you suggesting they were faked or planted. If so, where is the evidence for this?

[Charles Collins]

Let's back this up a bit;

I asked you; 

What makes you think that Odum even knew about what some unknown FBI employee wrote in a report?

In two posts you stated that in your opinion it is reasonable that Odum agreed with the report and must have read the report.

Now, leaving your biased opinion aside for a moment, what do you have to show that Odum did in fact read the report before it was submitted to the WC?

My statement includes the qualification: “I think that”. It also includes YMMV which stands for your mileage may vary. This means that you may have a different opinion.