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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #133 on: July 10, 2023, 03:12:05 PM »
She also claimed that Lee tried to kill Richard Nixon. The Warren Commission was unable to corroborate the details of her claim about Nixon and there's no direct evidence linking Oswald to the Walker shooting.

Marina was unreliable as a witness and desperation is the only reason to cite her testimony...

She confused Nixon for LBJ because they were both VP.  Her story is consistent in every particular when linked to LBJ's Dallas visit.  She confirmed that she had never heard of LBJ before the assassination.   There is absolutely no reason to question her confirmation that Oswald confessed to the Walker shooting.  Why would she be in "desperation"?  How would lying to implicate her own husband in the Walker shooting help her cause?  It demonstrated that she had foreknowledge of Oswald's willingness to commit a political assassination.  If she had revealed that to the authorities prior to Nov. 22, there would have been no assassination.  She was furious with Ruth Paine for turning over the book that contained the note.  She didn't want the Walker attempt to become known.  It made her look bad.  There was also no reason for any conspirator to link Oswald to the Walker attempt to frame him for the JFK assassination.  Why bother when Oswald was dead and the investigating authorities were convinced of his guilt?  In fact, many CTers suggest the DPD and FBI were in on Oswald's framing.  Why did they need another crime to link him too when it was a done deal from their perspective?   That is silly. 

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #134 on: July 10, 2023, 04:47:29 PM »
She confused Nixon for LBJ because they were both VP.  Her story is consistent in every particular when linked to LBJ's Dallas visit.  She confirmed that she had never heard of LBJ before the assassination.
 

That's not a minor detail. Aside from that, she couldn't remember lots of other key details.

Initially, Marina claimed she prevented Lee from killing Nixon by locking him in the bathroom for hours. But that was implausible and she couldn't describe basic details about the incident to the Warren Commission:


Mr Rankin :Do you recall the bathroom, how the door closes? Does it close into the bathroom on Neely Street or from the outside in?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember now. I don’t remember. I only remember that it was something to do with the bathroom.

Mr Rankin :Did you lock him into the bathroom?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t remember precisely.

Mr Rankin :Do you recall how the locks were on the bathroom door there?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t recall. We had several apartments and I might be confusing one apartment with the other.

Mr Rankin :Is it your testimony that you made it impossible for him to get out if he wanted to?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember.

http://22november1963.org.uk/did-oswald-try-to-kill-richard-nixon

There is absolutely no reason to question her confirmation that Oswald confessed to the Walker shooting.

The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Maybe she mistook Walker for someone else the same way, according to you, she mistook Nixon for LBJ. 

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #135 on: July 10, 2023, 05:25:30 PM »
 

That's not a minor detail. Aside from that, she couldn't remember lots of other key details.

Initially, Marina claimed she prevented Lee from killing Nixon by locking him in the bathroom for hours. But that was implausible and she couldn't describe basic details about the incident to the Warren Commission:


Mr Rankin :Do you recall the bathroom, how the door closes? Does it close into the bathroom on Neely Street or from the outside in?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember now. I don’t remember. I only remember that it was something to do with the bathroom.

Mr Rankin :Did you lock him into the bathroom?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t remember precisely.

Mr Rankin :Do you recall how the locks were on the bathroom door there?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t recall. We had several apartments and I might be confusing one apartment with the other.

Mr Rankin :Is it your testimony that you made it impossible for him to get out if he wanted to?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember.

http://22november1963.org.uk/did-oswald-try-to-kill-richard-nixon

The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Maybe she mistook Walker for someone else the same way, according to you, she mistook Nixon for LBJ.

You think there was another sniper-type attack on April 10 that Marina mistook for Walker?  There was no other such event.  Only one.  In contrast to the situation with the LBJ visit.  LBJ was VP.  Nixon was a VP.  LBJ visited Dallas in the timeframe Marina indicates.  She confirms that she had no idea that LBJ was VP until after the assassination.  She knew Nixon as the VP.   If Oswald said he was going to shoot the Vice President, Marina would have believed that was Nixon because she didn't know who LBJ was at the time.  The VP visit was reported on the front page of the Dallas papers as Marina remembered.  Everything fits that scenario.  Nothing fits the making it up scenario.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #136 on: July 10, 2023, 05:35:38 PM »
 

That's not a minor detail. Aside from that, she couldn't remember lots of other key details.

Initially, Marina claimed she prevented Lee from killing Nixon by locking him in the bathroom for hours. But that was implausible and she couldn't describe basic details about the incident to the Warren Commission:


Mr Rankin :Do you recall the bathroom, how the door closes? Does it close into the bathroom on Neely Street or from the outside in?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember now. I don’t remember. I only remember that it was something to do with the bathroom.

Mr Rankin :Did you lock him into the bathroom?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t remember precisely.

Mr Rankin :Do you recall how the locks were on the bathroom door there?

Mrs Oswald :I can’t recall. We had several apartments and I might be confusing one apartment with the other.

Mr Rankin :Is it your testimony that you made it impossible for him to get out if he wanted to?

Mrs Oswald :I don’t remember.

http://22november1963.org.uk/did-oswald-try-to-kill-richard-nixon

The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Maybe she mistook Walker for someone else the same way, according to you, she mistook Nixon for LBJ.


The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Why would you not consider that the note in Russian LHO reportedly left for Marina, The photographs of Walker’s home which were reportedly found among LHO’s belongings in Ruth Paine’s residence, the bullet recovered from Walker’s home, all as corroborating evidence of Marina’s sworn testimony? (The lame excuses that we are fixing to be subjected to are just plain silly.)

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #137 on: July 10, 2023, 06:18:03 PM »
“Richard” has no way of verifying that Marina was told anything before it was known to the public. He justs repeats a claim as if it’s a fact — just as he does with every unsubstantiated and uncorroborated claim that he likes.

And even if Lee did tell her something like this, she still has no firsthand knowledge that it’s actually true.

Offline Jon Banks

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« Reply #138 on: July 10, 2023, 06:34:06 PM »

The lack of corroborating evidence and Marina's poor memory are two reasons to discount her claim about Lee confessing to attempting to kill Edwin Walker.

Why would you not consider that the note in Russian LHO reportedly left for Marina, The photographs of Walker’s home which were reportedly found among LHO’s belongings in Ruth Paine’s residence, the bullet recovered from Walker’s home, all as corroborating evidence of Marina’s sworn testimony? (The lame excuses that we are fixing to be subjected to are just plain silly.)

- The note is undated and doesn't mention Walker. Which means it's worthless as evidence. I doubt it would've been admissible if Oswald went to trial for the Walker shooting. 

- The photograph of Walker's home was found in Ruth Paine's home after LHO's death. It can't be proven that Oswald took the photo or brought it to her home.

- Walker himself denied that the bullet in evidence is the bullet that was recovered from his home. He described a different bullet and the initial police reports described a 30 caliber bullet, not the type of bullet that was used with a Mannliche-Carcano.


I stand by my view that LHO wouldn't have been convicted for attempted murder in the Walker case if he lived to stand trial. Marina wouldn't have been able to testify against him and there's no direct evidence connecting him to the crime.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #139 on: July 10, 2023, 06:40:31 PM »
She confused Nixon for LBJ because they were both VP. 

Marina herself disagrees with “Richard”:

Mrs. Oswald. The FBI suggested that possibly I was confused between Johnson and Nixon but there is no question that in this incident it was a question of Mr. Nixon. I remember distinctly the name Nixon because I read from the presidential elections that there was a choice between President Kennedy and Mr. Nixon.

So now suddenly Marina’s say so about something Lee told her is no longer reliable. How convenient.