Did The CIA use a MK-Ultra to Interfere with Jack Ruby's Case?

[Jon Banks]

Why did Dr. Jolly West get involved with Jack Ruby in the first place? Were there no other psychiatrists in the huge state of Texas?

It's well documented that West was involved with MK-Ultra and experimented with LSD. Whether or not he knew the CIA was funding his research remains up for debate. But it's still a strange coincidence that he is connected to Jack Ruby.

[Fred Litwin]

If you would read my post, you would see how West got involved. He was a renowned psychiatrist back then, and Ruby's defense team asked
him to evaluate Ruby.

[Robert Reeves]

If you would read my post, you would see how West got involved. He was a renowned psychiatrist back then, and Ruby's defense team asked
him to evaluate Ruby.

Fred, just stop. West's specialty was 'MIND CONTROL'. To title West as a psychiatrist, in the sense he was there to help Ruby, is utter bollocks.



West was an expert in psychological torture. West proposed the very same techniques he was using during MKULTRA experiments for the treatment of Ruby. In particular - use of Sodium pentothal & Hypnosis.

Ruby was left alone with West in an isolated cell whereupon Ruby exhibits massive deterioration in his mental state. And we're supposed to believe this wasn't the plan? Bringing in a Dr Mengele Nazi type doctor whose specialty is mental manipulation & torture. As Fred Litwin likes to gaslight, to ''EVALUATE RUBY''

[Fred Litwin]

It was NOT West who wanted to use sodium pentothal and hypnosis. That was the suggestion of Jack Ruby's lawyer. Why don't you read
my post.

As for sodium pentothal and hypnosis - I know one person who did use those techniques.

Jim Garrison.

Do you believe he was part of MK-Ultra.

fred

[Paul May]

Fred Litwin, once again, you have not condemned Dr. West (as you call him). Any decent thinking human that has done any research on your so-called Dr. West should be alarmed to learn the lead protagonist in CIA's MKULTRA was brought in to meet Jack Ruby. Afterwards Jack Ruby displayed erratic mental health. With what we know now; all that has been declassified about MKULTRA & West, you should without any hesitation be condemning this blatant interference by the CIA with the most important witness alive at the time.

You are a fraud Mr Litwin. You had the chance to denounce the illegal experimentation & torture of humans. These were crimes of which  Jolyon West carried out at the behest of the CIA. For you to nonchalantly ignore West's CIA background with such evil shows you are without much moral guidance.

But most likely, you made this dumb post on your blog for your own vanity. I can only imagine you haven't thoroughly researched the topic of MKULTRA & West. No one could be so ignorant of the evil acts committed against fellow humans.

There is no “The” in CIA. Let’s get one thing right.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

There is no “The” in CIA. Let’s get one thing right.

For many of these people - the political types - this isn't about the assassination of JFK, the actual event: it's about using the tragedy as an instrument to go after whatever monsters they have in their heads. "The CIA" is at the top of the list. LBJ. Hoover. "The military". Or for Mr. Reeves the US as a whole. British anti-Americanism is always fascinating in a car accident sort of way.

There's been no evidence presented - none here - that Dr. West engaged in unethical behavior. Yes, MK-Ultra turned into a horrible program, it used innocent people as guinea pigs. But where is the evidence that *West* did any of this? That he didn't use professional standards such as informed consent with the subjects he used? Again, none has been presented here. If he did I'll lead the protests. MK-Ultra was terrible but not everyone associated with it is equally culpable for the wrongs done.

As to Ruby: what is the claim? That West did what? Anything? Brainwashed him? Injected him with cancer cells? That's silly and it's indicative of how the JFK conspiracy crowd got its bad reputation: they earned it.

[Robert Reeves]

For many of these people - the political types - this isn't about the assassination of JFK, the actual event: it's about using the tragedy as an instrument to go after whatever monsters they have in their heads. "The CIA" is at the top of the list. LBJ. Hoover. "The military". Or for Mr. Reeves the US as a whole. British anti-Americanism is always fascinating in a car accident sort of way.

There's been no evidence presented - none here - that Dr. West engaged in unethical behavior. Yes, MK-Ultra turned into a horrible program, it used innocent people as guinea pigs. But where is the evidence that *West* did any of this? That he didn't use professional standards such as informed consent with the subjects he used? Again, none has been presented here. If he did I'll lead the protests. MK-Ultra was terrible but not everyone associated with it is equally culpable for the wrongs done.

As to Ruby: what is the claim? That West did what? Anything? Brainwashed him? Injected him with cancer cells? That's silly and it's indicative of how the JFK conspiracy crowd got its bad reputation: they earned it.

Nice to see you finding the courage to emerge from your lowly lurking shadows of shame just to pile on when someone else firstly interacts negatively. Should we devote some time analyzing the deficiencies in character that would override your true belief this case is already solved, and that you just hang around here for the funsies of trolling the crap out of people when you calculate you've got a better chance of not being taken apart so easily if you interject your nasty pathetic passive-aggressive commentary on the back of someone else's rodeo.

How do you like those eggs?