Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #595 on: August 18, 2023, 01:48:24 PM »
No: as in down the lane. As she told Mr. Nigel Turner.

Yes: he crossed Patton and then went out of sight down the lane towards Jefferson. As per her same-day affidavit:



Your heroes in the WC couldn't get her to describe the man trotting off out of sight down Patton towards Jefferson. Best they could do was sleight-of-hand the problem with the formula
'Crossed Patton' + 'Towards Jefferson' = 'Down Patton towards Jefferson'

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What do you suppose "down the lane towards Jefferson" means?
Answer:  Down the lane means down Patton towards Jefferson.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #596 on: August 18, 2023, 02:09:05 PM »
What do you suppose "down the lane towards Jefferson" means?
Answer:  Down the lane means down Patton towards Jefferson.

Patton Lane? :D

The word Ms. Markham used with Mr. Turner was 'alley' btw. She said the man went over the fence and down the alley.

Guess we'll have to refine your 'Answer': Over the fence and down the alley means down Patton towards Jefferson.

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #597 on: August 18, 2023, 02:11:08 PM »
Helen Markham to the Secret Service (12/2/63):

"When he got to the corner of Patton Avenue and Tenth Street, he started running.  He ran at an angle across Patton Ave., and the last time I saw him, he was running down Patton Avenue toward Jefferson Street."

Helen Markham, FBI report (3/16/64):

"After OSWALD had gotten to the southeast corner of Patton and 10th, he started running diagonally across the street in a southwesterly direction to the west side of Patton. She last saw OSWALD as he was running down Patton Street."

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #598 on: August 18, 2023, 02:20:36 PM »
Helen Markham to the Secret Service (12/2/63):

"When he got to the corner of Patton Avenue and Tenth Street, he started running.  He ran at an angle across Patton Ave., and the last time I saw him, he was running down Patton Avenue toward Jefferson Street."

Helen Markham, FBI report (3/16/64):

"After OSWALD had gotten to the southeast corner of Patton and 10th, he started running diagonally across the street in a southwesterly direction to the west side of Patton. She last saw OSWALD as he was running down Patton Street."

Indeed------there are times when she appears to be saying what the 'investigating' authorities want to hear, and times when she isn't saying what they want to hear.

You, being a devout Warren Gullible, cherry-pick the times she is on script, and never mention the off-script stuff.

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #599 on: August 18, 2023, 02:28:45 PM »
Indeed------there are times when she appears to be saying what the 'investigating' authorities want to hear, and times when she isn't saying what they want to hear.

You, being a devout Warren Gullible, cherry-pick the times she is on script, and never mention the off-script stuff.

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The "off-script stuff", as in the statement for The Men Who Killed Kennedy twenty-five years later?  You do realize what you refer to as what she "told Nigel Turner" was in 1988.  Right?

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #600 on: August 18, 2023, 02:46:43 PM »
The "off-script stuff", as in the statement for The Men Who Killed Kennedy twenty-five years later?

No, lol.
Her same-day affidavit is already an embarrassment to your cause: "ran west on E. 10th across Patton Street and went out of sight".
As is her WC testimony:
"Towards Jefferson, right across that way" = a very different proposition to 'Towards Jefferson, down Patton'. (Mr. Ball, of course, knows better than to clarify for the record where Ms. Markham is pointing as she says these words.) 

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You do realize what you refer to as what she "told Nigel Turner" was in 1988.  Right?

So what? What she clearly states in 1988 cleanly explains the curiously ambiguous wording we find in her affidavit and WC testimony.

Your problem, cherry-picker, not mine!

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #601 on: August 18, 2023, 09:38:50 PM »
From 12/3/63 FBI interview report for Mr. Frank Cimino:



Must have been a different waitress to Ms. Markham. Right, Mr. Brown?  :D
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