Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

[Martin Weidmann]

If the police had found a wallet at the murder scene of a police officer knowing that the murderer was still on the loose in the vicinity, don't you think someone would have radioed that person's name and/or description to the police dispatcher?  Just as they did after the JFK assassination based on a witness description of the shooter.  It would be logical to assume that a wallet left at that scene was related to the crime and the person whose ID was found in the wallet would likely be involved.  Certainly, enough of a circumstance for the police to pursue that clue.  And that would be the entire motivation of anyone who planted the wallet.  We know that didn't happen, however.  I doubt we can ever proof exactly what it is with certainty.  But the circumstances lend themselves toward this being an item belonging to Tippit.

Pure speculation and more of the same "they would have done so and so" BS.

And that would be the entire motivation of anyone who planted the wallet.  We know that didn't happen, however.

Really? And how do "we" know that?

And why do you keep ignoring the fact that FBI agent Bob Barrett, who was there and saw the damned thing, confirmed that it was a wallet?

But the circumstances lend themselves toward this being an item belonging to Tippit.

Hilarious. For years LNs have been claiming that the wallet seen in the video belonged to Tippit. But then Marie Tippit confirmed that her husband had his wallet with him when he was delivered to the hospital. Unable to explain why Bob Barrett would lie about seeing Westbrook holding a wallet, we are now back to "it probably belonged to Tippit".  It's beyond pathetic!

[Jon Banks]

If the police had found a wallet at the murder scene of a police officer knowing that the murderer was still on the loose in the vicinity, don't you think someone would have radioed that person's name and/or description to the police dispatcher?

Without doing an investigation, how would they have known the wallet belonged to Tippit's killer? For all they knew at the time, the wallet could've belonged to an innocent bystander who ran away and dropped his wallet. I don't think the fact that they didn't do what you think they should've done proves anything. The Dallas PD didn't do lots of things that we assume SHOULD happen during crime scene investigations. The sniper's nest in TSBD almost certainly was staged and didn't look as it did in the photos when the police first arrived. The police certainly shouldn't tamper with potential evidence or stage evidence for photos but we know those sorts of things happened at the Kennedy crime scene.

If the wallet wasn't Oswald's who do you think it belonged to? It remains an unsolved mystery whether it belonged to Oswald or not.

[Mitch Todd]

Did you two clowns go to the same "dumb and dumber" school?

Did you read the rules regarding posting etiquette in this forum? Pretty sure that your lead-off broke a couple.

They would have immediately broadcast the name and description of any individual whose wallet was left at the scene.  That didn't happen.

That didn't happen because (1) police never give names of potential suspects on the radio and (2) it's not up to a cop to determine that the wallet's owner had anything to do with the crime. He could just as easily have been a bystander who simply lost his wallet.

police never give names of potential suspects on the radio

This is from the Shearer transcript of the channel one recording:

DIS: 72.
72:   Go ahead.
DIS: No wanted on a 1950 Chevrolet two-door, 1104 Vista Drive, Mesquite.
72:   Check three persons for me: James Pride, colored male, 21; Charles Pride, colored male, 23; then a Carroll B. Pride (P-R-I-D-E), a colored male, 29.
DIS: Not registered to any of those.
72:   Not

He could just as easily have been a bystander who simply lost his wallet.

Then wouldn't the obvious course of action be to ask the witnesses and gawkers assembled at the scene if they lost a wallet? Ask if anyone was or knew a Lee Oswald? Ask if anyone was or knew A. Hidell?

[Mitch Todd]

Without doing an investigation, how would they have known the wallet belonged to Tippit's killer? For all they knew at the time, the wallet could've belonged to an innocent bystander who ran away and dropped his wallet. I don't think the fact that they didn't do what you think they should've done proves anything. The Dallas PD didn't do lots of things that we assume SHOULD happen during crime scene investigations. The sniper's nest in TSBD almost certainly was staged and didn't look as it did in the photos when the police first arrived. The police certainly shouldn't tamper with potential evidence or stage evidence for photos but we know those sorts of things happened at the Kennedy crime scene.

If the wallet wasn't Oswald's who do you think it belonged to? It remains an unsolved mystery whether it belonged to Oswald or not.

What if the wallet belonged to someone they knew was at the scene, like Ted Callaway? He certainly would have attracted police interest, as he'd been riding around the 'hood with Scoggins, bearing the dead officer's pistol.

[Jon Banks]

Did you read the rules regarding posting etiquette in this forum? Pretty sure that your lead-off broke a couple.
 

police never give names of potential suspects on the radio

This is from the Shearer transcript of the channel one recording:

DIS: 72.
72:   Go ahead.
DIS: No wanted on a 1950 Chevrolet two-door, 1104 Vista Drive, Mesquite.
72:   Check three persons for me: James Pride, colored male, 21; Charles Pride, colored male, 23; then a Carroll B. Pride (P-R-I-D-E), a colored male, 29.
DIS: Not registered to any of those.
72:   Not

He could just as easily have been a bystander who simply lost his wallet.

Then wouldn't the obvious course of action be to ask the witnesses and gawkers assembled at the scene if they lost a wallet? Ask if anyone was or knew a Lee Oswald? Ask if anyone was or knew A. Hidell?

If you believe Barrett, he was asked at the Tippit murder scene if he knew an Oswald or Hidell:

"The first officer on the Tippit murder scene was Dallas Police Sergeant Kenneth H. Croy, who arrived as the ambulance was picking up Tippit’s body. Croy told an interviewer that an unknown man handed him Oswald’s wallet right after his arrival. The witnesses who preceded Croy at the crime scene were adamant that no one dropped a wallet anywhere in the vicinity.

The wallet wound up in the hands of Captain Pinky Westbrook. FBI agent Bob Barrett recalled that Westbrook turned to him at the scene and asked, ‘You ever heard of a Lee Harvey Oswald?’ I said, ‘No, I never have.’ He said ‘How about an Alek Hidell?’ I said, ‘No. I never have heard of him either,'” Barrett explained."

https://jfkfacts.org/oswalds-wallet-planted-at-the-tippit-crime-scene/

[Martin Weidmann]

Did you read the rules regarding posting etiquette in this forum? Pretty sure that your lead-off broke a couple.
 

police never give names of potential suspects on the radio

This is from the Shearer transcript of the channel one recording:

DIS: 72.
72:   Go ahead.
DIS: No wanted on a 1950 Chevrolet two-door, 1104 Vista Drive, Mesquite.
72:   Check three persons for me: James Pride, colored male, 21; Charles Pride, colored male, 23; then a Carroll B. Pride (P-R-I-D-E), a colored male, 29.
DIS: Not registered to any of those.
72:   Not

He could just as easily have been a bystander who simply lost his wallet.

Then wouldn't the obvious course of action be to ask the witnesses and gawkers assembled at the scene if they lost a wallet? Ask if anyone was or knew a Lee Oswald? Ask if anyone was or knew A. Hidell?

police never give names of potential suspects on the radio

This is from the Shearer transcript of the channel one recording:

DIS: 72.
72:   Go ahead.
DIS: No wanted on a 1950 Chevrolet two-door, 1104 Vista Drive, Mesquite.
72:   Check three persons for me: James Pride, colored male, 21; Charles Pride, colored male, 23; then a Carroll B. Pride (P-R-I-D-E), a colored male, 29.
DIS: Not registered to any of those.
72:   Not

Which of those three was a murder suspect / witness or a suspect / witness in any other crime?

He could just as easily have been a bystander who simply lost his wallet.

Then wouldn't the obvious course of action be to ask the witnesses and gawkers assembled at the scene if they lost a wallet? Ask if anyone was or knew a Lee Oswald? Ask if anyone was or knew A. Hidell?

Sure, that's exactly what FBI agent Bob Barrett said happened. Westbrook asked him if he knew Oswald or Hidell!

He possibly asked other people as well, but that's not recorded anywhere, so we'll never know for sure.

I would argue that it is possible Westbrook did not call in the finding of the wallet exactly because he wasn't sure if it belonged to Tippit's killer or not. What he did call in was the white jacket that an unidentified cop found under a car, because he did have reason to assume it did belong to the killer.

One thing is for sure. Westbrook is essential in two pieces of crucial evidence and both pieces of evidence (the wallet and the jacket) are obviously tainted.

[Martin Weidmann]

What if the wallet belonged to someone they knew was at the scene, like Ted Callaway? He certainly would have attracted police interest, as he'd been riding around the 'hood with Scoggins, bearing the dead officer's pistol.

If a photo ID of Oswald or Hidell was in the wallet, as it seems it was, just how big, do you think, are the odds they would consider Callaway as the potential owner?