David Lifton has died

[Richard Smith]

According to his friends/colleagues, Lifton himself, he was working on an updated/new book - "Final Charade" - that included a claim that Oswald was a willing participant, a conspirator, in the assassination. He wasn't framed and/or an innocent bystander. Lifton's claim was that Oswald was indeed in the "sniper's nest" but that his role was to stick a rifle out the window and fire blanks at JFK.

Why he was supposed to do this is a mystery. Why he went along with this is another one.

To take a step back at this whole conspiracy idea: JFK had enemies in the government, he also had friends. And he also had people who may have disliked him but wouldn't go along with murdering him, essentially committing treason. How any conspirators planning this in advance would know which was which, know that some people they asked to go along with this wouldn't, would expose it before or certainly later after it was done, is something that I've never heard explained by the conspiracy believers. As in: "How could you possibly plan this out and know it wouldn't be revealed?"

Lifton's discussion is here:

Maybe Oswald thought he was in a Three Stooges movie with one of those fake guns that has a flag that comes out and says "bang" when you pull the trigger.  The fact that anyone can take this nonsense seriously is more fascinating than Lifton's theory.  Imagine that there are people who apparently entertain or outright believe Lifton's theory that someone stole JFK's body from Air Force One, altered his body, and then somehow returned it unnoticed before the official autopsy.   The fantasy conspirators were capable of these fantastic feats, but they were not smart enough to simply use the gun linked to Oswald to fire the shots and eliminate the necessity of the entire body alteration scenario.

[Martin Weidmann]

Good grief.  You are like a scared child.  I asked you to clarify your position on Lifton's theory.  Why these hysterics?  Here are your EXACT words:

"Lifton offered more credible evidence for parts of his theory than you ever will and can for Oswald being on the 6th floor when the shots were fired."


Now again.  What "credible evidence" are you making reference to here?

As John said earlier;

I’ll answer this “Richard”-style.

Read “Best Evidence”. It’s all in there.

[John Iacoletti]

The current count of evidence that “Richard” has provided for Oswald being on the sixth floor when the shots were fired still stands at exactly ZERO.

[Martin Weidmann]

The current count of evidence that “Richard” has provided for Oswald being on the sixth floor when the shots were fired still stands at exactly ZERO.

Perhaps we simply haven't been patient enough. We have only been asking for some six months now....

[Richard Smith]

Perhaps we simply haven't been patient enough. We have only been asking for some six months now....

So again - what is the "credible evidence" that you believe supports Lifton's theory?  Why make a statement like that and then run like a child from it?  Do you believe there is "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory or not?   If so, what is it?  Why is it so hard for you to explain your own position?  Duncan should intervene and ban members who make such statements and then refuse to defend them.

[Richard Smith]

As John said earlier;

I did read "Best Evidence" many years ago.  I don't find it credible.  How does that answer the question posed to you?  What do you find to be "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory.  That is the claim you made.  So tell us what "credible evidence" supports his theory.  Surely you know since that is your claim.

[John Iacoletti]

I did read "Best Evidence" many years ago.  I don't find it credible.  How does that answer the question posed to you?

Great. I read the Warren Commission Report years ago, and I don’t find it credible. How does that answer the questions posed to you? Now where’s your evidence placing Oswald on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting?

Why do you get to demand answers when you provide none of your own? If Duncan banned such people, you’d be the first to go.