David Lifton has died

[John Iacoletti]

Where exactly did I say that? You wouldn't be making stuff up again, would you now?

Of course he is. He’s Strawman “Smith” — always demanding answers while providing none of his own.

[Louis Earl]

David Lifton tried to make sense of the inconsistencies in the recollections of numerous trained medical personnel about the condition of JFK's body in Dallas v. his body in Bethesda.  Like many others, I cannot buy his theory but I don't think its wise or justified to toss out the bacy with the bath. 

[Richard Smith]

I'm "not entitled to an answer"?  HA HA HA.  Are you a child?

No, I was talking to you as if you were a child so you might actually understand something for once. It seems it was in vain.

You made an affirmative statement.  I just asked you to clarify it.

After I had already stated that I was not going to enter into any kind of discussion about Lifton's theories in this thread.

First, it was Oswald "didn't come the stairs" but then refusing to explain whether that meant you have concluded Oswald wasn't the assassin.

Liar! This was explained to you over and over again. It's not my problem that you have a comprehension problem, as clearly demonstrated by you asking the same already answered question over and over again.

Now it's Lifton had "credible evidence" for his bizarre body alteration theory

Where exactly did I say that? You wouldn't be making stuff up again, would you now?

Page after page of this nonsense.  You indicated that there was more "credible evidence" to support Lifton's body alteration theory than the case for Oswald's guilt.  I asked a simple question about what evidence you found "credible" to support his theory.  You refused to answer questioning whether you made the statement.  So clear it up for us.  Do you believe there is "credible evidence" that supports Lifton's theory or not?  If not, we are in agreement.  If you do, however, enlighten us with what you find credible.  Spare us the endless personal commentary and insults and try to focus on the topic.

[Richard Smith]

David Lifton tried to make sense of the inconsistencies in the recollections of numerous trained medical personnel about the condition of JFK's body in Dallas v. his body in Bethesda.  Like many others, I cannot buy his theory but I don't think its wise or justified to toss out the bacy with the bath.

Why not if his theory is absurd and baseless?  No reasonable person can believe that the plan was to frame Oswald by linking him to a specific rifle and shooting location but then using a different rifle and shooting location to commit the assassination.   Why do that when the conspirators could have just used Oswald's rifle and fired the shots from the 6th floor?  Thereby eliminating the incredibly risky and complicated necessity of stealing the president's body.  Of all the far out CTer theories, the most outrageous is that someone stole JFK's body and returned it before the autopsy.  That is tin foil hat stuff that should be rejected without reservation by everyone. 

[Martin Weidmann]

Page after page of this nonsense.  You indicated that there was more "credible evidence" to support Lifton's body alteration theory than the case for Oswald's guilt.  I asked a simple question about what evidence you found "credible" to support his theory.  You refused to answer questioning whether you made the statement.  So clear it up for us.  Do you believe there is "credible evidence" that supports Lifton's theory or not?  If not, we are in agreement.  If you do, however, enlighten us with what you find credible.  Spare us the endless personal commentary and insults and try to focus on the topic.

You indicated that there was more "credible evidence" to support Lifton's body alteration theory than the case for Oswald's guilt.

You refused to answer questioning whether you made the statement.

What is it with you and all these lies? Do you figure you can somehow win an argument or even make a point by lying all the time?
Stop making stuff up. I never indicated anything of the kind.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Why not if his theory is absurd and baseless?  No reasonable person can believe that the plan was to frame Oswald by linking him to a specific rifle and shooting location but then using a different rifle and shooting location to commit the assassination.   Why do that when the conspirators could have just used Oswald's rifle and fired the shots from the 6th floor?  Thereby eliminating the incredibly risky and complicated necessity of stealing the president's body.  Of all the far out CTer theories, the most outrageous is that someone stole JFK's body and returned it before the autopsy.  That is tin foil hat stuff that should be rejected without reservation by everyone.

According to his friends/colleagues, Lifton himself, he was working on an updated/new book - "Final Charade" - that included a claim that Oswald was a willing participant, a conspirator, in the assassination. He wasn't framed and/or an innocent bystander. Lifton's claim was that Oswald was indeed in the "sniper's nest" but that his role was to stick a rifle out the window and fire blanks at JFK.

Why he was supposed to do this is a mystery. Why he went along with this is another one.

To take a step back at this whole conspiracy idea: JFK had enemies in the government, he also had friends. And he also had people who may have disliked him but wouldn't go along with murdering him, essentially committing treason. How any conspirators planning this in advance would know which was which, know that some people they asked to go along with this wouldn't, would expose it before or certainly later after it was done, is something that I've never heard explained by the conspiracy believers. As in: "How could you possibly plan this out and know it wouldn't be revealed?"

Lifton's discussion is here:

[Richard Smith]

You indicated that there was more "credible evidence" to support Lifton's body alteration theory than the case for Oswald's guilt.

You refused to answer questioning whether you made the statement.

What is it with you and all these lies? Do you figure you can somehow win an argument or even make a point by lying all the time?
Stop making stuff up. I never indicated anything of the kind.

Good grief.  You are like a scared child.  I asked you to clarify your position on Lifton's theory.  Why these hysterics?  Here are your EXACT words:

"Lifton offered more credible evidence for parts of his theory than you ever will and can for Oswald being on the 6th floor when the shots were fired."


Now again.  What "credible evidence" are you making reference to here?