Jack Ruby was hit by the car…

[Charles Collins]

Charles, I seem to recall your modeling of the sunlight striking one of the pipes and estimating the time from that. I also think it was John Mytton who suggested that idea as a possible way to time the photo. I thought that work was in this thread but can't find it either.

Yes, I think that there’s a patch of sunlight visible on the inside of the East wall just south of the southern most window that was used. I think that both of us could now get more precise and have more confidence in the results now that you have made some window measurements, etc. on-site. I think that I will see what I come up with first chance that I get.

[James Hackerott]

Yes, I think that there’s a patch of sunlight visible on the inside of the East wall just south of the southern most window that was used. I think that both of us could now get more precise and have more confidence in the results now that you have made some window measurements, etc. on-site. I think that I will see what I come up with first chance that I get.

Here is the thread:
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2258.0.html

[Charles Collins]

Here is the thread:
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2258.0.html

Thanks James, that’s the one.

[James Hackerott]

Thanks James, that’s the one.

I ran the sun from 1pm to 3pm and the sun strike on the east wall looks about right and agrees with your 3D work around 2:20pm. However, my sim does not pick up the lower sun/shadow on the straight pipe during this time, if that is what we are actually seeing in the CE502/508 photo.

I’ll add this and the animation to the earlier thread for reference.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2258.16.html

[Charles Collins]

I ran the sun from 1pm to 3pm and the sun strike on the east wall looks about right and agrees with your 3D work around 2:20pm. However, my sim does not pick up the lower sun/shadow on the straight pipe during this time, if that is what we are actually seeing in the CE502/508 photo.

I’ll add this and the animation to the earlier thread for reference.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2258.16.html

Awesome! I tried it again and was getting close to the same (2:15 to 2:20). Thanks again James!

[Joe Elliott]

I think Ruby being hit by the car was the result of a misunderstanding by the driver. When the Dallas police, discussing among themselves, said that Ruby would have to be bumped off, they didn't mean they wanted thus done immediately. And by "bumped off", they didn't mean "touched by a bumper".