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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: From the outside looking in...
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2022, 03:08:29 PM »

Perhaps DP-6 will help clear this problem up for you Walt. It is a closer view that shows sunlight and shadows which clearly indicate that the time of day is not in the morning. I think that the stacks of boxes, and the gaps between the boxes, (and their relative angles) are creating the shadows and light patches on the more distant photo (DP-5). I believe that the angles of the light patches on the floor in DP-5 are indicative of the angles of the gaps, not the angle of the sun.



Why do you insist on displaying your dishonesty, Mr Collins?     You specifically  stated that the photo was Studebaker # 5 and the sunlit on the floor speaks the truth.....  It was taken in the MORNING....




 
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: From the outside looking in...
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2022, 03:33:20 PM »
Why do you insist on displaying your dishonesty, Mr Collins?     You specifically  stated that the photo was Studebaker # 5 and the sunlit on the floor speaks the truth.....  It was taken in the MORNING....





No one has said that it was “Studebaker #5”. I said that it is designated DP-5 in “JFK First Day Evidence” by Gary Savage. Take a look at page 168 and see for yourself.


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: From the outside looking in...
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2022, 03:56:25 PM »


No one has said that it was “Studebaker #5”. I said that it is designated DP-5 in “JFK First Day Evidence” by Gary Savage. Take a look at page 168 and see for yourself.

Answer the question.....  Was DP # 5 taken on the afternoon of the murder?

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2022, 03:59:49 PM »
No specific location was given by any of your officers. Therefore no one (including you) can say for certain specifically what they meant by their descriptions. But the above photos do indicate to me that a casual look might lead one to assume this extended row of boxes was a part of the sniper's nest shield boxes.

Wow, talk about inventing a fantasy to justify what you want to believe!

Studebaker wasn't there when the "sniper's nest" was initially found, and we've heard from various sources that things were moved around and/or tampered with before his photos were taken.

It's not surprising that BRW would want to distance himself from the window that they said the shots came from, so when he heard that his lunch remains were seen by a different window, why would he dispute that?  He didn't even initially admit to being up there at all.

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Re: From the outside looking in...
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2022, 04:01:21 PM »
So we know without any doubt that a person was there and therefore could be unobserved by BRW while he was on the 6th floor since that is exactly what happened.

What's hilarious is that "Richard" doesn't understand that circular arguments are a fallacy.

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Re: From the outside looking in...
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2022, 05:10:38 PM »
Wow, talk about inventing a fantasy to justify what you want to believe!

Studebaker wasn't there when the "sniper's nest" was initially found, and we've heard from various sources that things were moved around and/or tampered with before his photos were taken.

It's not surprising that BRW would want to distance himself from the window that they said the shots came from, so when he heard that his lunch remains were seen by a different window, why would he dispute that?  He didn't even initially admit to being up there at all.


Here's a diagram showing how the boxes were stacked near the southeast corner.




The row that I have shown in the photos and in this diagram are an extension of the boxes surrounding the sniper's nest. No one is making any of this up.


Now, do you have any evidence that any of the officers have specifically disputed the photographs of the lunch remains? Or are you also just opining that the non-specific descriptions are something that they most definitely are not?

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Re: From the outside looking in...
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2022, 05:39:41 PM »

Here's a diagram showing how the boxes were stacked near the southeast corner.




The row that I have shown in the photos and in this diagram are an extension of the boxes surrounding the sniper's nest. No one is making any of this up.


Now, do you have any evidence that any of the officers have specifically disputed the photographs of the lunch remains? Or are you also just opining that the non-specific descriptions are something that they most definitely are not?

Thank you for posting this map



Notice where the gun is located relative to the ceiling support pillar .... In the official DPD in situ photo (CE 514) that shows the rifle sandwiched between boxes of books, that pillar is close to the muzzle of the rifle, but in Studebaker's map the muzzle of the rifle is about seven feet from that pillar....
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