Poll claims Oswald seen as a-hole

[Walt Cakebread]

Just his rifle

"his rifle" LOL

and fired bullet casings from that rifle

there is no evidence those bullet casings were fired by the MC rifle on that day. In fact, it can't even be shown that the rifle itself was fired on 11/22/63.

by the window from which multiple witnesses saw a rifle pointing out the window at 12:30.

And how exactly does any of this prove, other than by pure flawed assumption, that Oswald was on the 6th floor at 12:30?

Answer: It doesn't!

And he left no evidence on the 6th floor.  HA HA HA.

I've noticed you frequently laugh about your own stupidity. How in the world can you claim that Oswald left evidence on the 6th floor when you can't even prove that he was there when the shots were fired?

There is no evidence those bullet casings were fired by the MC rifle on that day. In fact, it can't even be shown that the rifle itself was fired on 11/22/63.

But there is evidence that the spent shells were NOT fired on 11/22/63.....  One of the casings has been dented  and that had to have happened AFTER the shell was fired...It has always been a mystery about how that shell became dented ..... Until Mr Collins posted a cutaway drawing of the action of a Carcano.....  And then it was obvious how that shell had been dented.....

Sometime prior to 11/22/63 that spent shell had been used as as filler round in a clip and it was the bottom shell in the clip ....When the clip was inserted into the magazine the elevator came in contact with the empty shell  and when the person pushed the clip of cartridges down into the magazine the soft brass was dented by the elevator.    During normal operation the shells have a long projectile that makes the shell a solid surface and the live round does not become dented by the elevator.

I will try to post Mr Collins illustration that shows how that shell became dented.... 

My computer won't cut and paste .....See page 8 of the position of the bolt handle.....



In this cut way the bottom cartridge has the projectile in the cartridge......but if the projectile was not in the soft brass cartridge, that steel elevator would dent the case when the clip full of cartridges was pushed down into the magazine and latched.

[Jerry Freeman]

"his rifle" LOL
 In fact, it can't even be shown that the rifle itself was fired on 11/22/63.

It was not tested to see if it was fired that day and it easily could have been. Why not?

[Martin Weidmann]

It was not tested to see if it was fired that day and it easily could have been. Why not?

Indeed   

"Richard" seems to believe that a rifle which Oswald allegedly ordered months earlier (which by itself is questionable) being found on the 6th floor somehow "proves" that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired. It's beyond hilarious.

[Richard Smith]

Just his rifle

"his rifle" LOL

and fired bullet casings from that rifle

there is no evidence those bullet casings were fired by the MC rifle on that day. In fact, it can't even be shown that the rifle itself was fired on 11/22/63.

by the window from which multiple witnesses saw a rifle pointing out the window at 12:30.

And how exactly does any of this prove, other than by pure flawed assumption, that Oswald was on the 6th floor at 12:30?

Answer: It doesn't!

And he left no evidence on the 6th floor.  HA HA HA.

I've noticed you frequently laugh about your own stupidity. How in the world can you claim that Oswald left evidence on the 6th floor when you can't even prove that he was there when the shots were fired?

And still no answer.  Do you accept the only implication of your claim being true or not?  If Oswald could not come down the stairs unnoticed as you claim, then he cannot have been the assassin.  Is that your position or not?  I can't fathom why this is so difficult to answer.  This is YOUR claim.

[John Iacoletti]

“Richard” needs to stop demanding that Martin prove a negative and answer his question. What is the evidence that Oswald was on the sixth floor at 12:30 pointing a rifle out the window? Do you have any or not?

[Martin Weidmann]

And still no answer.  Do you accept the only implication of your claim being true or not?  If Oswald could not come down the stairs unnoticed as you claim, then he cannot have been the assassin.  Is that your position or not?  I can't fathom why this is so difficult to answer.  This is YOUR claim.

This is YOUR claim.

I can't fathom that you are incapable of understanding the difference between a claim and an opinion.

When I say that I can not see how Oswald could have gone down the stairs, within 75 seconds after the shots, without being noticed, I am not making a claim. It's an opinion based on the known information. Opinions can be changed when more conclusive evidence is presented!

You are the one making the claim that Oswald was on the 6th floor at the time of the shots and that he did manage to go down the stairs unnoticed. You need to, at least, explain how he was able to do that and you clearly can't.

[Richard Smith]

This is YOUR claim.

I can't fathom that you are incapable of understanding the difference between a claim and an opinion.

When I say that I can not see how Oswald could have gone down the stairs, within 75 seconds after the shots, without being noticed, I am not making a claim. It's an opinion based on the known information. Opinions can be changed when more conclusive evidence is presented!

You are the one making the claim that Oswald was on the 6th floor at the time of the shots and that he did manage to go down the stairs unnoticed. You need to, at least, explain how he was able to do that and you clearly can't.

Run Martin run.   You didn't say you cannot see how Oswald could have gone down the stairs.  You said he couldn't have done it.  Based on your analysis you concluded "[Oswald] didn't come down the stairs."  He DIDN"T COME DOWN THE STAIRS!  That is not only a "claim" but a conclusion.   But it was just an "opinion" you were expressing.  HA HA HA.  So dishonest. 


Here it is again:

"If Oswald had come down the stairs within 75 seconds after the shots, he would have been seen by Dorothy Garner, who was standing next to the stairs on the 4th floor.
She heard Adams and Styles going down on the stairs and saw Baker and Truly come up. Somewhere inbetween these two events Oswald would have be passing the 4th floor. The reason Garner did not see him is simple; he didn't come down the stairs."