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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #80 on: August 25, 2022, 04:30:44 PM »
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We know from the testimony of Jarman and Norman this could only have happened minutes prior to the shooting.

Here's the LNer's timeline for Lee Oswald.....

12:27---  LHO in 1st floor lunchroom

12:29---LHO arrives on 6th floor and retrieves the disassembled rifle that was in a paper sack and walks to the SE corner window.

!2:29 :30 ---LHO removes pieces of the rifle from the paper sack and tosses the sack in the corner and assembles the rifle

12:30--- LHO aims rifle from the window at the Lincoln which is behind the foliage of a tree, and hastily fires three shots.

12:31---LHO walks across the sixth floor and hides the rifle beneath boxes of books and then walks down the stairs to the 2nd floor lunchroom, where he is encountered by Baker and Truly at 12: 31: 45....

Whew!....  It's unbelievable how quick LHO could move.....

No LNer believes that is an accurate timeline.   Oswald's movements in minutes leading up to the assassination are uncertain.  The evidence, however, places him in the SN at 12:30 beyond any doubt.  You have also falsely suggested that JFK's car was "behind the foliage of a tree" when the shots were fired.  As apparent from the WC recreation of the event, his car was in a clear line of sight on Elm from Oswald's window when he was struck.    An easy shot for Oswald who was trained in the USMC.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #81 on: August 25, 2022, 04:42:55 PM »
No LNer believes that is an accurate timeline.   Oswald's movements in minutes leading up to the assassination are uncertain.  The evidence, however, places him in the SN at 12:30 beyond any doubt.  You have also falsely suggested that JFK's car was "behind the foliage of a tree" when the shots were fired.  As apparent from the WC recreation of the event, his car was in a clear line of sight on Elm from Oswald's window when he was struck.    An easy shot for Oswald who was trained in the USMC.

No LNer believes that is an accurate timeline.

OK ,    Mr "Smith" if that's not an accurate time line ....then perhaps you can present an accurate one...starting at 12:27 when Lee saw Jarman and Norman walk by the 1st floor lunchroom.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #82 on: August 25, 2022, 04:47:17 PM »
No LNer believes that is an accurate timeline.   Oswald's movements in minutes leading up to the assassination are uncertain.  The evidence, however, places him in the SN at 12:30 beyond any doubt.  You have also falsely suggested that JFK's car was "behind the foliage of a tree" when the shots were fired.  As apparent from the WC recreation of the event, his car was in a clear line of sight on Elm from Oswald's window when he was struck.    An easy shot for Oswald who was trained in the USMC.

Notice the Loons also have Oswald incapable of assembling the rifle despite having all morning to do so. In the Land O' Loons, if Oswald had assembled the rifle before noon, the rifle would have been left out in the open and noticed. No LN scenario or evaluation of the evidence is possible. Why do they love this Oswald? A shared hatred of authority?

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #83 on: August 25, 2022, 05:00:46 PM »
No LNer believes that is an accurate timeline.

OK ,    Mr "Smith" if that's not an accurate time line ....then perhaps you can present an accurate one...starting at 12:27 when Lee saw Jarman and Norman walk by the 1st floor lunchroom.

There is insufficient information to reconstruct Oswald's movements before the assassination.  There was no real cause of others to take notice of him or the specific time down to the precise minute of mundane events that were occurring in the building before the assassination.  What we know with certainty is that Oswald was in the SN at 12:30 based upon the evidence that he left behind.

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« Reply #84 on: August 25, 2022, 05:03:50 PM »
Notice the Loons also have Oswald incapable of assembling the rifle despite having all morning to do so. In the Land O' Loons, if Oswald had assembled the rifle before noon, the rifle would have been left out in the open and noticed. No LN scenario or evaluation of the evidence is possible. Why do they love this Oswald? A shared hatred of authority?

Yes, it's a reoccurring pattern.  And, of course, we are constantly told that Oswald couldn't have done things that someone else apparently could.  Oswald would require "superpowers" to perform these mundane acts while some stranger on the floor apparently could pull it off and escape unnoticed.  Repeat endlessly.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #85 on: August 25, 2022, 05:07:22 PM »
Notice the Loons also have Oswald incapable of assembling the rifle despite having all morning to do so. In the Land O' Loons, if Oswald had assembled the rifle before noon, the rifle would have been left out in the open and noticed. No LN scenario or evaluation of the evidence is possible. Why do they love this Oswald? A shared hatred of authority?

Dear Mr Tiny Organ.... Are you aware that Mr "Smith" provided me with the information that Lee hid the paper sack that contained the  disassembled rifle and then retrieved that sack with the rifle in it just before he shot JFK? 

If you have a problem with Mr "Smith's" statement then perhaps you can present a different scenario.    But you need to keep in mind that the rifle could not have been assembled in less than five minutes .....so if you believe that Lee assembled the rifle while other workers were moving about then he would have run the risk of being caught with the rifle.   

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #86 on: August 25, 2022, 05:16:11 PM »
Yes, it's a reoccurring pattern.  And, of course, we are constantly told that Oswald couldn't have done things that someone else apparently could.  Oswald would require "superpowers" to perform these mundane acts while some stranger on the floor apparently could pull it off and escape unnoticed.  Repeat endlessly.

Wottsamatter wit you, Mr "Smith"? ....  Can't you provide me with a time line for Lee Oswald starting at the time (12:27) that he saw Jarman and Norman walk by the 1st floor lunchroom.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #87 on: August 25, 2022, 05:27:48 PM »
Dear Mr Tiny Organ.... Are you aware that Mr "Smith" provided me with the information that Lee hid the paper sack that contained the  disassembled rifle and then retrieved that sack with the rifle in it just before he shot JFK? 

Where does any LNer say Oswald started for the 6th floor at 12:27?

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If you have a problem with Mr "Smith's" statement then perhaps you can present a different scenario.    But you need to keep in mind that the rifle could not have been assembled in less than five minutes .....so if you believe that Lee assembled the rifle while other workers were moving about then he would have run the risk of being caught with the rifle.   

I think it's possible Oswald took the rifle to work without disassembling it. An inch or two of the barrel end sticking out, easily concealed by holding the bag at the top and tucking the open end in between Frazier's back seat and seat back.

As for Oswald being too stupid or naive to figure out a way to assembly/unpackaged the rifle and place it somewhere without being noticed, is this one of those "superpowers" he would have required?