Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2022, 05:19:34 PM »
Oswald only made it to the 2nd floor before encountering the police.

True, if he was indeed on the 6th floor to begin with, that is.....

Oswald had a legitimate reason to be in building which is the only reason that he was allowed to escape

I would not call Baker letting Oswald go, after Truly vouched for him, an "escape".

Any other assassin would have to get out of the entire building without being seen.

Who said he needed to be not seen? He may well have been seen with people just not paying attention simply because he was one of many men who were inside the TSBD by then.

Thus, it was much easier for Oswald to reach the 2nd floor and then escape the building than for some stranger to get completely out of the building unnoticed.

Utter nonsense. If Oswald had come down the stairs within 75 seconds after the shots, he would have been seen by Dorothy Garner, who was standing next to the stairs on the 4th floor.
She heard Adams and Styles going down on the stairs and saw Baker and Truly come up. Somewhere inbetween these two events Oswald would have be passing the 4th floor. The reason Garner did not see him is simple; he didn't come down the stairs.

And are you really claiming there was no one on the 6th floor at 12:30?

It's possible.

The rifle seen pointing out the window at the moment of the assassination was being held by a ghost. 

What rifle would that be? Euins only saw a pipe and the Z-film shows that Brennan was watching the motorcade when the shots were being fired. He later lied about that of course..

And repeating the 75 second estimate as though it is absolute is weak.  Even if you repeat it.  No one knows the exact timing but even 75 seconds doesn't preclude Oswald from reaching the lunchroom.

Do you have a reading problem? I never claimed the 75 seconds estimate to be absolute. This is what I said;

The only problem with the 75 seconds scenario is that there is no way for him to pass by the 4th floor without Dorothy Garner seeing him. The WC solved the problem by not calling Garner to testify and discredit Victoria Adams with a outrageous and physically impossible bogus claim.

And how do your fantasy conspirators obtain Oswald's rifle in the first place to plant it?

Try to assume for a second that it wasn't Oswald's rifle at all and you may arrive at an answer.

How do they get to the 6th floor to plant the rifle, shells, and bag and escape unnoticed?

What bag? The one that wasn't there when the first six officers got into the sniper's nest? The one that doesn't show up on any in situ crime scene photo?
And which shells? The ones Fritz picked up or the ones he threw down?

And as for the rifle (and this will freak you out), what if it wasn't planted until after the shooting? Within minutes after the shooting you've got law enforcement with rifles running up the stairs. There are photos showing this. Nobody would notice an extra rifle carried by another guy in a suit. Once he gets to the 6th floor he just dumps the rifle behind the first set of boxes he encounters. I'm sure you're going to find it incredible, impossible and whatever more, but that doesn't interest me much. What would interest me is this; if you claim it couldn't have happened, then explain for once why it couldn't have happened instead of simply dismissing it out of hand as per usual.


What rifle would that be? Euins only saw a pipe and the Z-film shows that Brennan was watching the motorcade when the shots were being fired. He later lied about that of course..

It's easy to believe that Brennan lied....  But I don't believe he did in the immediate aftermath of the murder.

I believe his mind played tricks on him.... He knew that he'd seen a man aiming a rifle out of a sixth floor window just as Arnold Rowland had seen a man holding a rifle behind a window of the sixth floor minutes before the shooting.  Then with the confusion that reined after the shooting his mind simply tied the two events together.  Or he may have actually lied about seeing the man aiming the rifle out of the window during the shooting and he saw no harm or malice in saying that he saw the man aiming the rifle because he calculated that there was no harm in garnering a little fame.  As a matter of fact his wife give him hell when he got home that afternoon, because she said that she had seen him on TV and telling the reporter that he'd seen the man aiming the rifle out of the window.   His wife was upset because the killer was still on the loose and he had told the whole wide world that he could identify the man with the rifle.  Thereby placing himself and the family in danger.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2022, 05:20:03 PM »
When you learn to communicate in a manner that anybody can understand, get back to us...

I have no interest in catering to high school dropouts and Oswald worshippers.
But thanks so much for your always-useful input

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #121 on: August 26, 2022, 05:23:55 PM »

What rifle would that be? Euins only saw a pipe and the Z-film shows that Brennan was watching the motorcade when the shots were being fired. He later lied about that of course..

It's easy to believe that Brennan lied....  But I don't believe he did in the immediate aftermath of the murder.

I believe his mind played tricks on him.... He knew that he'd seen a man aiming a rifle out of a sixth floor window just as Arnold Rowland had seen a man holding a rifle behind a window of the sixth floor minutes before the shooting.  Then with the confusion that reined after the shooting his mind simply tied the two events together.  Or he may have actually lied about seeing the man aiming the rifle out of the window during the shooting and he saw no harm or malice in saying that he saw the man aiming the rifle because he calculated that there was no harm in garnering a little fame.  As a matter of fact his wife give him hell when he got home that afternoon, because she said that she had seen him on TV and telling the reporter that he'd seen the man aiming the rifle out of the window.   His wife was upset because the killer was still on the loose and he had told the whole wide world that he could identify the man with the rifle.  Thereby placing himself and the family in danger.

As pointed out, several witnesses confirmed seeing the rifle at the moment of the assassination.   Did all their "minds play tricks" on them?  A mass delusion.  Confirmed by the witnesses on the 5th floor who heard gun shots directly above their heads.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #122 on: August 26, 2022, 05:25:48 PM »
Wisdom comes slow.  The evidence places Oswald in the SN at 12:30

 BS: What evidence?

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #123 on: August 26, 2022, 05:29:11 PM »
I have no interest in catering to high school dropouts and Oswald worshippers.
But thanks so much for your always-useful input

You have no interest in even forming coherent sentences.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #124 on: August 26, 2022, 05:52:39 PM »
You have no interest in even forming coherent sentences.

You have a lot of interest in worshipping cold-blooded killers
I have a lot of interest in knowing that Oswald got what he deserved.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #125 on: August 26, 2022, 06:35:46 PM »
You have a lot of interest in worshipping cold-blooded killers
I have a lot of interest in knowing that Oswald got what he deserved.

Dear Chappie.... You are no different than little kids who watched the Dudley Dooright cartoons ....

It was very easy for the kids to identify Snidely Whiplash as the evil villain who they could boo and spit at.

Lee Oswald was presented to us in the same way that Snidely Whiplash was presented to the little kids.

It's a shame that you're too stupid to understand .....
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