Letters from Russia

[Steve M. Galbraith]

We just had Tracy Parnell review this silly movie about Ruth Paine. In it, one of the "deans" of the conspiracy side, Vincent Salandria, accuses Michael Paine (and Ruth too) of being CIA agents involved in the assassination.

What was, in part, his evidence of Michael's involvement, of his intelligence work? He said this:

"His [Michael Paine's] father was George Lyman Paine, a leading Trotskyian of the West Coast. Michael Paine works for Bell Helicopter. That’s secret clearance! You don’t get that without a quid pro quo! He’s an agent! You know that immediately."

So Michael Paine's father - his father - was a Trotskyite. That's evidence. And he had a security clearance while working on helicopters at Bell. That's also the evidence of his being a agent.

That is nonsense, it's a smear, and it's obvious that it's baseless.

But we got not one single word of protest from the Oswald apologists, the same people oh-so-upset about accusations against him.

Who again are the hypocritical frauds?

[Martin Weidmann]

We just had Tracy Parnell review this silly movie about Ruth Paine. In it, one of the "deans" of the conspiracy side, Vincent Salandria, accuses Michael Paine (and Ruth too) of being CIA agents involved in the assassination.

What was, in part, his evidence of Michael's involvement, of his intelligence work? He said this:

"His [Michael Paine's] father was George Lyman Paine, a leading Trotskyian of the West Coast. Michael Paine works for Bell Helicopter. That’s secret clearance! You don’t get that without a quid pro quo! He’s an agent! You know that immediately."

So Michael Paine's father - his father - was a Trotskyite. That's evidence. And he had a security clearance while working on helicopters at Bell. That's also the evidence of his being a agent.

That is nonsense, it's a smear, and it's obvious that it's baseless.

But we got not one single word of protest from the Oswald apologists, the same people oh-so-upset about accusations against him.

Who again are the hypocritical frauds?

Who again are the hypocritical frauds?

You're one of them. Whining about how some people make claims against the Paines, whilst at the same time making similar claims about a dead man who never had the opportunity to defend himself.

I don't agree with any claims being made about anybody without evidence to back it up. That goes for the Paines as well as for Oswald. In either case, bring me conclusive evidence to back up your claim and I will accept it.

I don't think there is enough evidence to support the claim that Ruth and Michael Paine were CIA agents, but, having said that, I do find there is circumstantial evidence to support at least a suspicion of them playing some part in this tragedy, in much the same way as there is about George DeMohrenschildt. Some things just don't add up and will never be explained when there are people like you who dismiss everything out of hand instead of having an open discussion about the subject.

Your posts are filled with hypocrisy.

Btw Vincent Salandria is not one of the "deans" of the conspiracy side. At least not for me. There is in fact no conspiracy side in the way you seem to think there is. Salandria is just a guy with an opinion. Just like you and me. He doesn't speak for anybody else just as you don't speak for all LNs. Your generalizations are pathetic.

[John Iacoletti]

You are ranting, insulting other posters, and behaving completely inappropriately. 

Wow. Talk about pots and kettles.

[John Iacoletti]

Once again, Steve Galbraith confuses righteous indignation with evidence.

By the way, I haven’t seen anybody here call Ruth Paine a traitor who was behind the assassination of JFK. Sounds like a strawman.

You don’t “cite volumes of evidence against Oswald”. You cite garbage rhetoric and call it evidence.

[John Iacoletti]

We just had Tracy Parnell review this silly movie about Ruth Paine. In it, one of the "deans" of the conspiracy side, Vincent Salandria, accuses Michael Paine (and Ruth too) of being CIA agents involved in the assassination.

Have you even seen the movie? I doubt it.

[Bill Chapman]

Who again are the hypocritical frauds?

You're one of them. Whining about how some people make claims against the Paines, whilst at the same time making similar claims about a dead man who never had the opportunity to defend himself.

I don't agree with any claims being made about anybody without evidence to back it up. That goes for the Paines as well as for Oswald. In either case, bring me conclusive evidence to back up your claim and I will accept it.

I don't think there is enough evidence to support the claim that Ruth and Michael Paine were CIA agents, but, having said that, I do find there is circumstantial evidence to support at least a suspicion of them playing some part in this tragedy, in much the same way as there is about George DeMohrenschildt. Some things just don't add up and will never be explained when there are people like you who dismiss everything out of hand instead of having an open discussion about the subject.

Your posts are filled with hypocrisy.

Btw Vincent Salandria is not one of the "deans" of the conspiracy side. At least not for me. There is in fact no conspiracy side in the way you seem to think there is. Salandria is just a guy with an opinion. Just like you and me. He doesn't speak for anybody else just as you don't speak for all LNs. Your generalizations are pathetic.

"You're one of them. Whining about how some people make claims against the Paines, whilst at the same time making similar claims about a dead man who never had the opportunity to defend himself."
_Neither did Kennedy nor Tippit.

[Bill Chapman]

Most of these clowns would wilt under the pressure of having to say to her face what they say about her online.

She made mincemeat out of Jerry Spence via a mere chortle or two.