Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #189 on: August 05, 2022, 12:28:00 AM »
Dan you have somehow completely gotten off track. The info in this post in no way resembles your original post. Did you give up on your quotes and the subsequent supporting information? If you did, good choice, there was nothing there.

If you can prove any of what is on this list, how about a few quotes to go along with your claims? A quick scan of the list and once it looks like again a lot of crap being offered as proof.

This post is utterly meaningless, nonsensical and irrelevant.
It is obviously a tactic employed to disguise how out of your depth you are.
But I'll throw you a bone...
Rather than deal with the list I presented in full, just critique one point, any point you want and explain to me, and everyone else what is wrong with it:

Adams herself insists this has been fabricated.
Styles confirms no such encounter took place.
Shelley contradicts this encounter by saying he thought he saw Adams later on and on the fourth floor.
Lovelady has clearly been coached about Vickie Adams.
Lovelady admits he didn't re-enter the TSBD building for 20-25 minutes after the assassination.
Adams states in her WC testimony she left within seconds.
Both Garner and Styles confirm that Adams left immediately.
Garner's interview with Ernest corroborates the Stroud document.




Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #190 on: August 05, 2022, 02:05:17 PM »
This is all you've got, Mr Nessan? Really. Gee, I feel your pain.

You claimed there was no police presence behind the Depository early enough for Ms Adams' timestamp for her exit. I proved you wrong.

You claimed there was no police presence at the front door of the Depository early enough for Ms Adams' account of speaking to an officer there when she wished to return inside the building. I proved you wrong.

After that, it's just been embarrassed histrionics from you

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You did not prove anything at all. That is the point. This is what you call proof?

A Ford:
"in all likelihood Officer Eugene Welcome Barnett"
"it may well have been Officer Barnett"


Why the reluctance to quote Barnett? You are all over the place but stop short of admitting how silly your theory about Barnett is. You can't even admit you are talking about him because it is so ridiculous.

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #191 on: August 05, 2022, 02:11:15 PM »
This post is utterly meaningless, nonsensical and irrelevant.
It is obviously a tactic employed to disguise how out of your depth you are.
But I'll throw you a bone...
Rather than deal with the list I presented in full, just critique one point, any point you want and explain to me, and everyone else what is wrong with it:

Adams herself insists this has been fabricated.
Styles confirms no such encounter took place.
Shelley contradicts this encounter by saying he thought he saw Adams later on and on the fourth floor.
Lovelady has clearly been coached about Vickie Adams.
Lovelady admits he didn't re-enter the TSBD building for 20-25 minutes after the assassination.
Adams states in her WC testimony she left within seconds.
Both Garner and Styles confirm that Adams left immediately.
Garner's interview with Ernest corroborates the Stroud document.

Just a thought, but maybe instead of throwing me a bone, how about grow a pair. No one is asking you to do anything but provide the proof of what you are posting. It is your list feel free to quote these people. Obviously, your other post was pure nonsense, when it was questioned it sure disappeared in a hurry and replaced by whatever goofy nonsense this is.

 There must not be any basis for your statements or there would not seem to be such a problem quoting them. Basically, you are admitting there is no proof of any kind. Just idle BS.


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #192 on: August 05, 2022, 03:38:37 PM »
You did not prove anything at all. That is the point. This is what you call proof?

A Ford:
"in all likelihood Officer Eugene Welcome Barnett"
"it may well have been Officer Barnett"

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Translation 'I can no longer claim that Ms Adams couldn't possibly have encountered a police officer in that area so soon after the shooting, so I'm going to cry myself an angry river'

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #193 on: August 05, 2022, 04:30:50 PM »
Just a thought, but maybe instead of throwing me a bone, how about grow a pair. No one is asking you to do anything but provide the proof of what you are posting. It is your list feel free to quote these people. Obviously, your other post was pure nonsense, when it was questioned it sure disappeared in a hurry and replaced by whatever goofy nonsense this is.

 There must not be any basis for your statements or there would not seem to be such a problem quoting them. Basically, you are admitting there is no proof of any kind. Just idle BS.

More cringe stuff from Mr Nessan

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #194 on: August 06, 2022, 05:51:45 PM »
More cringe stuff from Mr Nessan

Many thanks to you and Dan. By making false claims and posting dubious evidence and completely failing to provide a legitimate supported alternative scenario, it only served to prove the official WC conclusions are the correct ones. Too bad Barry Ernest had not taken the time to read the WC Witness testimonies. He could have saved himself the effort of writing the book.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #195 on: August 06, 2022, 06:45:24 PM »
Many thanks to you and Dan. By making false claims and posting dubious evidence and completely failing to provide a legitimate supported alternative scenario, it only served to prove the official WC conclusions are the correct ones. Too bad Barry Ernest had not taken the time to read the WC Witness testimonies. He could have saved himself the effort of writing the book.

Too bad Barry Ernest had not taken the time to read the WC Witness testimonies.

Oh, but he did. He just isn't as gullible as you.