Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie

[Alan Ford]

What is Fritz's big lie? These claims have a way of usually turning out to be nothing but a farce.

LHO told Holmes he came downstairs to the lunchroom encounter.

Are you out of hokey documents to post?

Are you arguing that the Stroud document is "completely fabricated"? Yes or no, Mr Nessan?

[Alan Ford]

So!

1. Mr Oswald breaks for lunch
2. He goes downstairs (washes up, etc.)
3. He goes to the 2nd floor lunchroom to buy a Coca-Cola from the machine
4. He returns to the 1st floor to eat lunch (noticing Messrs Norman & Jarman as they re-enter the building by the back door)
5. He goes outside to watch the P. Parade (having left it till the last minute as he dislikes small-talk with co-workers)
6. Within seconds of the shots ringing out, he dashes down and off the steps to go out and see what all the excitement is about-------in doing this, he is following Mr Bill Shelley, who has already dashed off the steps
7. The pair go west to the railroad yards and stand around for some time watching the action
8. The pair re-enter the Depository by the west door
9. Mr Oswald is spotted in a small storage room on the first floor
10. Mr Oswald is stopped by Officer Kaminski trying to leave the building: Mr Truly vouches for him, and he is told he may step outside but is not to leave the premises
11. A man flashing credentials comes running to the door and asking for a telephone: Mr Oswald directs him to the phone on the shipping-floor
12. Mr Oswald goes outside and, at some point thereafter, slips away

 

[Jack Nessan]

Are you arguing that the Stroud document is "completely fabricated"? Yes or no, Mr Nessan?

No, the Stroud document is real, pathetic, but real. The math doesn't work making the document a joke. Barry Ernest apparently is very proud of having discovered it, but because he has dubious reasoning skills, he does not realize it is nonsense.

Discussing the Stroud document is where your hero, Barry Ernest, hangs you out dry on Adam's WC testimony. Changing "It" to "there" would be her change. The rest of your post on Adams "top secret" WC changes is made up tripe.

Barry Ernest: 2011 

"The letter has since become known as "the Stroud document.
Its contents concerned the testimony of Victoria Adams and how,
on examination, Miss Adams had noticed several spelling and
grammatical errors that she felt needed correction.  None of those
corrections were made in the final version, however."

[Alan Ford]

No, the Stroud document is real, pathetic, but real.

OK, we'll get to the Stroud document anon, but help me out here. Which document exactly were you referring to in Reply #78 (June 19) when you wrote------------------

"The document you are placing so much importance on looks to be completely fabricated"

-------------------?

 

[Jack Nessan]

OK, we'll get to the Stroud document anon, but help me out here. Which document exactly were you referring to in Reply #78 (June 19) when you wrote------------------

"The document you are placing so much importance on looks to be completely fabricated"

-------------------?

 

Post 78 seems obvious.

Unable to support what you have been posting?

[Alan Ford]

Post 78 seems obvious.

Unable to support what you have been posting?

~Grin~

In Reply #78 you wrote:

"The document you are placing so much importance on looks to be completely fabricated"

I have been placing great importance on an array of documents in this thread, so I have to ask you again:

Which document, if not the Stroud letter, are you arguing has been "completely fabricated"?

 

[Alan Ford]

Well!

Ms Dorothy Garner's sighting of Mr Truly and the policeman coming up AFTER Ms Adams ran downstairs leaves Warren Gullibles (and CT Lunchroom Gullibles) only one explanation:

Mr Truly & Officer Baker didn't notice-----------and were not noticed by-----------Ms Adams & Ms Styles because the two men were over by the lunchroom with Mr Oswald when Ms Adams and Ms Styles crossed the second-floor landing.

Challenge to any Warren Gullible clinging on to the above (ear-plugs-dependent) scenario!:

Reconcile
a) Messrs Shelley & Lovelady's account to the WC of their post-assassination movements
with
b) Messrs Shelley & Lovelady's being on the first floor when Ms Adams & Ms Styles arrived on to it