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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #136 on: June 17, 2022, 08:21:29 PM »
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That unlucky Oswald, he flees the building from which many eyewitnesses said shots were fired from, and ends up walking down the street away from a just occurred murder while removing shells and carrying a gun?

“Flees”. LOL.

“building from which many eyewitnesses said shots were fired from”. LOL.

“ends up walking down the street away from a just occurred murder while removing shells and carrying a gun”. LOL.


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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
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Re: Markham's Bus
« Reply #137 on: June 17, 2022, 08:26:53 PM »
Let's see what every CTer's favorite human on the Earth, the late Vince Bugliosi, said about the topic of Helen Markham's bus schedule....

What every WC-cultist’s favorite propagandist finds “hard to believe” is irrelevant.

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Re: ON THE MOVE WITH LEE HARVEY OSWALD ON 11/22/63:
« Reply #138 on: June 17, 2022, 08:28:32 PM »
How about we look at the actual eyewitnesses who encountered the murdering Oswald.

“Encountered the murdering Oswald”. LOL.

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Re: The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)
« Reply #139 on: June 17, 2022, 08:32:28 PM »
Do you think it's reasonable to believe that Benavides waited for NINE MINUTES to grab Tippit's radio and start pumping the mike?

a) you don’t know how accurate the dispatcher’s time announcements were.

b) Benavides said he waited in his truck for a few minutes.

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Re: ON THE MOVE WITH LEE HARVEY OSWALD ON 11/22/63:
« Reply #140 on: June 17, 2022, 08:43:06 PM »
Do you mean the Rachel you claimed was too old to need Ruth around to help out?

 BS: I never said that.

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Do you mean the transfer that was found flat, and therefore unnoticed, in his breast pocket?

There’s no evidence that it was “unnoticed”.

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Do you mean the Whaley who used a quarter-hour time slot... which in this case would cover the 12:30-12:45 slot?

His trip log has other entries that don’t fall on 15 minute boundaries. And besides, if his passenger really caught the cab at 12:48 (according to scripture) then the closest 15 minute interval would be 12:45, not 12:30.

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Do you mean Bledsoe is lying, and if so, can you tell us what would that be in aid of?

Why does it have to be “in aid” of something? What is Roberts’ story of the police car honking “in aid of”? What are the Oswald-Tippit-Ruby together sightings “in aid of”?

Any other lame excuses to trot out?
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Re: Markham's Bus
« Reply #141 on: June 18, 2022, 02:38:54 AM »
[DVP Said:] My guess is that Helen Markham very likely timed it so that she would be at the Jefferson & Patton bus stop at approximately 1:15 every day...

Exactly, so how could she witness the shooting of Tippit, on 10th street, if it really happened at 1.14 / 1.15. The logical answer is of course that she couldn't. If she got to her bus stop on Jefferson at around 1.15, then she could only have witnessed the events on 10th street if they had happened at around 1.11 or 1.12 at the latest.

Care to try again, to explain how Markham came to be at 10th/Patton at 1.14 / 1.15, when she should have been at the bus stop on Jefferson?

Taking into account the sum total of evidence which verifies that Lee Harvey Oswald was positively the murderer of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit, the logical answer to Martin's question is --- Helen Markham was merely a minute or two behind her normal routine on 11/22/63. In fact, an argument could actually be made that Markham was virtually on schedule to be at her bus stop at precisely 1:15, if Tippit's murder occurred somewhere between 1:12 PM and 1:14:30 PM.*

* The 1:12 estimate comes from Vincent Bugliosi (which is a time that I think is too early); the 1:14:30 time comes from the world's leading expert on the Tippit killing, Dale K. Myers (which is an estimate that I think is just about right, given the timing of when Domingo Benavides first started mashing the mic on the radio in Tippit's patrol car, which was 1:16). So the question would be: Could Mrs. Markham traverse the short distance from 10th & Patton to her Jefferson bus stop in about 30 seconds? I really have no idea. Maybe somebody in Dallas/Oak Cliff can try a re-creation to see how long it takes (at a regular walking speed, or even a fast walk) to travel that distance on foot.
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Re: Markham's Bus
« Reply #142 on: June 18, 2022, 02:47:29 AM »
The logical answer is, of course --- given the sum total of evidence which verifies that Lee Harvey Oswald was positively the murderer of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit --- Helen Markham was merely a minute or two behind her normal routine on 11/22/63. In fact, an argument could actually be made that Markham was virtually on schedule to be at her bus stop at precisely 1:15, if Tippit's murder occurred somewhere between 1:12 PM and 1:14:30 PM.*

* The 1:12 estimate comes from Vincent Bugliosi (which is a time that I think is too early); the 1:14:30 time comes from the world's leading expert on the Tippit killing, Dale K. Myers (which is an estimate that I think is just about right, given the timing of when Domingo Benavides first started mashing the mic on the radio in Tippit's patrol car, which was 1:16). So the question would be: Could Mrs. Markham traverse the distance from 10th & Patton to her Jefferson bus stop in about 30 seconds? I really have no idea. Maybe somebody in Dallas/Oak Cliff can try a re-creation to see how long it takes (at a regular walking speed, or even a fast walk) to walk that distance.

And you deny being a biased propagandist?

given the sum total of evidence which verifies that Lee Harvey Oswald was positively the murderer of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit

This is a weak circular argument. First you assume that Oswald was Tippit's killer and then you try to make the evidence fit that opinion. There is nothing logical about a circular argument.

Helen Markham was merely a minute or two behind her normal routine on 11/22/63.

No she wasn't. She testified that she left home on 9th street at 1.06 or 1.07. A one block walk, from 9th to 10th street would have taken her no more than 3 minutes, getting her to the corner of 10th and Patton at around 1.09 or 1.10. The result of your concocted story is not that she was "a minute or two behind". You have her five minutes behind and needing 8 minutes to walk approx 400 feet from 9th to 10th street. It's beyond belief.

the 1:14:30 time comes from the world's leading expert on the Tippit killing, Dale K. Myers

First of all, this is a appeal to authority fallacy and a very bad one, because there is no such thing as "the world's leading expert on the Tippit killing". All there is, is a guy with an opinion who has written a book to make money out of a tragedy. The mere fact that you agree with him doesn't make him an expert.

(which is an estimate that I think is just about right, given the timing of when Domingo Benavides first started mashing the mic on the radio in Tippit's patrol car, which was 1:16)

Assumes that the times of the DPD radio recordings are actually 100% correct, which they are not. Bowles, who was in charge of the DPD dispatchers, has told us unequivocally that police time was not real time.

Consider this; when Benavides could not get the radio to work, Bowley took the mic from him and made a call that lasted 48 seconds (you can time the audio recording). Ted Callaway was less than a block away from 10th street when he heard the shooting. He first encountered a man running towards him with a gun and then ran to the scene. That didn't take him more than 3 minutes, after the shots, at best. If we assume that the shooting took place, as Myers claims, at 1:14:30 than Callaway would have arrived on the scene at 1:17:30. The official narrative has Bowley starting to make his call past 1:17. However, when Callaway arrived, Bowley had already completed his call, which means Bowley's call must have started earlier and, in turn means that there is no way that Benavides started "smashing the mic on the radio" at 1:16.

So the question would be: Could Mrs. Markham traverse the distance from 10th & Patton to her Jefferson bus stop in about 30 seconds? I really have no idea. Maybe somebody in Dallas/Oak Cliff can try a re-creation to see how long it takes (at a regular walking speed, or even a fast walk) to walk that distance.

Already done and the answer is easy; No. The distance between 10th/Patton and Jefferson is one block, just over 400 feet. At walking speed it takes around 2 to 2,5 minutes.

So, why are you now backtracking from your own statement?

Oh and before I forget; are you really saying that Bowley needed 22 minutes to drive a 6.3 miles distance, which at normal speed would only have taken him 13 minutes at best? You must be saying that, because that would be the consequence of Myers' bogus timeline.
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Re: Markham's Bus
« Reply #143 on: June 18, 2022, 02:49:38 AM »
And you deny being a biased propagandist?

the 1:14:30 time comes from the world's leading expert on the Tippit killing, Dale K. Myers
Assumes that the times of the DPD radio recordings are actually 100% correct, which they are not. Bowles, who was in charge of the DPD dispatchers, has told us unequivocally that police time was not real time.

And how far off from reality did Bowles say the times were?
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