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Online Martin Weidmann

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You're joking, right? (You must be.)

No.

Let me ask you this; do you believe it is possible that Oswald was not on 10th street?

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Online David Von Pein

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No.

Let me ask you this; do you believe it is possible that Oswald was not on 10th street?

No. Absolutely not possible.

The best possible combination of evidence that could possibly exist (lacking a confession from the killer) does, indeed, exist in the Tippit murder case --- i.e., (1) more than half-a-dozen witnesses who positively identified Oswald as either the killer of Tippit or as the man who was leaving the scene of the shooting holding a gun and (2) the culprit being caught with the murder weapon in his very own hands at the time of his arrest (which was just half-an-hour after Officer Tippit was gunned down).

You couldn't get a better "evidence combination" to prove that Lee Harvey Oswald killed J.D. Tippit.

CTers will argue that there's "no evidence" at all against Oswald for Tippit's slaying. And they'll argue that they think the cops tampered with the shells AND did a switch-a-roo with the revolver.

But where's the PROOF that ANY evidence WAS tampered with? Do the CTers have any such PROOF? Of course they don't.

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That's hard to do when witnesses had Oswald in theatre when Tippit was shot. Amazing how the names of the people in the theatre just disappeared. Poof gone.

No. Absolutely not possible.

The best possible combination of evidence that could possibly exist (lacking a confession from the killer) does, indeed, exist in the Tippit murder case --- i.e., (1) more than half-a-dozen witnesses who positively identified Oswald as either the killer of Tippit or as the man who was leaving the scene of the shooting holding a gun and (2) the culprit being caught with the murder weapon in his very own hands at the time of his arrest (which was just half-an-hour after Officer Tippit was gunned down).

You couldn't get a better "evidence combination" to prove that Lee Harvey Oswald killed J.D. Tippit.

CTers will argue that there's "no evidence" at all against Oswald for Tippit's slaying. And they'll argue that they think the cops tampered with the shells AND did a switch-a-roo with the revolver.

But where's the PROOF that ANY evidence WAS tampered with? Do the CTers have any such PROOF? Of course they don't.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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No. Absolutely not possible.

The best possible combination of evidence that could possibly exist (lacking a confession from the killer) does, indeed, exist in the Tippit murder case --- i.e., (1) more than half-a-dozen witnesses who positively identified Oswald as either the killer of Tippit or as the man who was leaving the scene of the shooting holding a gun and (2) the culprit being caught with the murder weapon in his very own hands at the time of his arrest (which was just half-an-hour after Officer Tippit was gunned down).

You couldn't get a better "evidence combination" to prove that Lee Harvey Oswald killed J.D. Tippit.

CTers will argue that there's "no evidence" at all against Oswald for Tippit's slaying. And they'll argue that they think the cops tampered with the shells AND did a switch-a-roo with the revolver.

But where's the PROOF that ANY evidence WAS tampered with? Do the CTers have any such PROOF? Of course they don't.

So you do believe that Helen Markham, who was supposed to get her regular bus to work at 1:15 (according to her testimony) took 9 minutes to walk one block and just happened to miss her bus that day?

And you do believe that Bowley needed around 20 minutes to drive from his daughter's school to 10th street, which normally doesn't take any more than around 13 minutes?

And you do believe that Ted Callaway didn't make his radio call until six minutes after the shots were fired and he only had less than one block to run to get to the scene?

And you must disbelieve Bowles, the chief of the DPD dispatchers, when he said that the time stamps called out by the dispatchers do not reflect real time and that the clocks they used did not match the master clock which in turn did not match the main clock in the town hall?

And btw, where did you get the idea that Oswald was "caught with the murder weapon in his very own hands at the time of his arrest"? Haven't you been paying attention at all?
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So you do believe that Helen Markham, who was supposed to get her regular bus to work at 1:15 (according to her testimony) took 9 minutes to walk one block and just happened to miss her bus that day?

And you do believe that Bowley needed around 20 minutes to drive from his daughter's school to 10th street, which normally doesn't take any more than around 13 minutes?

And you do believe that Ted Callaway didn't make his radio call until six minutes after the shots were fired and he only had less than one block to run to get to the scene?

And you must disbelieve Bowles, the chief of the DPD dispatchers, when he said that the time stamps called out by the dispatchers do not reflect real time and that the clocks they used did not match the master clock which in turn did not match the main clock in the town hall?

And btw, where did you get the idea that Oswald was "caught with the murder weapon in his very own hands at the time of his arrest"? Haven't you been paying attention at all?

Why would you disregard all of the best evidence (positive witness I.D.s + ballistics proof) in favor of the much-less-reliable "timeline" type of evidence?

Makes no sense to do that. And yet, CTers are experts at doing just that.

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I would hardly label Markham testimony as best evidence. Again you're ignoring the time frame of the Tippit murder including Oswald being in the theatre. Also witnesses at the Tippit scene indicated two men sooooooo who was with LHO? By the way ballistics were for an automatic 38 which Oswald did not have but a 38 revolver.

Why would you disregard all of the best evidence (positive witness I.D.s + ballistics proof) in favor of the much-less-reliable "timeline" type of evidence?

Makes no sense to do that. And yet, CTers are experts at doing just that.
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Why would you disregard all of the best evidence (positive witness I.D.s + ballistics proof) in favor of the much-less-reliable "timeline" type of evidence?

Makes no sense to do that. And yet, CTers are experts at doing just that.

Because it's not the "best evidence". You just call it that. Upon closer inspection it completely falls apart.

Eye witness testimony is the worst kind of evidence you can have. When 5 people watch an accident you will get 5 different versions of what happened. Yet you want us to believe that all these witnesses saw exactly the same thing. Give me a break!

And as far as ballistic proof is concerned, only Nicol claimed he could match one of the bullets taken from Tippit's body to the revolver. All other experts disagreed. And that's not all. You can't even prove that the revolver now in evidence is in fact the revolver that was taken from Oswald at the Texas Theater.

I don't care if it makes sense to you or not, but the events only happened in one way. And that means you will have to take all the evidence into consideration and not just what you like. Markham testified that she took her regular bus to work at 1.15 from a bus stop on Jefferson. So, if Tippit was really shot at 1.15, what in the world was Markham still doing on 10th street?

If you can't even provide a plausible explanation for a simple question like that (instead of just dismissing it as "much-less-reliable "timeline" type of evidence") you haven't got a conclusive case at all.

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I would hardly label Markham testimony as best evidence.

It's not JUST Markham. Several other witnesses IDed LHO in the area with a gun. But you'll just ignore them, right?


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Again you're ignoring the time frame of the Tippit murder including Oswald being in the theatre.

So you think Oswald was in the theater at about 1:00 PM, right? Which, if true, means he would have then left the theater about 35 minutes later in order to be seen standing in front of Johnny Brewer's shoe store at about 1:35 PM. And then Oswald re-enters the theater after seemingly trying to avoid the police cars screaming past the Hardy's Shoe Store on Jefferson Boulevard (per Brewer's testimony).

How much sense does that scenario make---even if you're a CTer? Did the plotters screw up and have TWO different "Lee Oswalds" go to the theater at about the same time between 1 and 2 PM on Nov. 22? How dumb would that have been?


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Also, witnesses at the Tippit scene indicated two men. Sooooooo, who was with LHO?

Nobody was with LHO:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/11/acquilla-clemons-and-murder-of-jd-tippit.html
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