David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed

[John Iacoletti]

You don't think Domingo Benavides qualifies as a "Tippit murder witness", eh?

That's about as silly as the CTers who insist William Scoggins shouldn't be classified as a "Tippit murder witness" either.

 

They either saw somebody shoot somebody or they did not.  I realize you want to manufacture more witnesses than you actually have.

[John Iacoletti]

BTW, my earlier "one and only killer" remark is derived from knowing what the eyewitnesses (in total) said about the question of "HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOT TIPPIT?"

The answer to that is, of course, one.

Sure, if you ignore the ones that saw two people.

[John Iacoletti]

It hasn't escaped my notice that WC-cultists always make broad claims about the JFK assassination, and invariably always revert to discussing the Tippit case instead.

[David Von Pein]

It hasn't escaped my notice that WC-cultists always make broad claims about the JFK assassination, and invariably always revert to discussing the Tippit case instead.

It's not possible to fully and properly discuss the JFK assassination without also discussing the Tippit murder. Can't be done. Because the two murders (just 45 minutes apart) are inexorably linked.

Are you actually implying, John, that the Tippit case should never be brought up when discussing the murder of John Kennedy? You don't think the two crimes are in any way related?

[John Iacoletti]

It's not possible to fully and properly discuss the JFK assassination without also discussing the Tippit murder. Can't be done. Because the two murders (just 45 minutes apart) are inexorably linked.

The only thing that links them is your belief that the same person committed both crimes. That’s it.

Are you actually implying, John, that the Tippit case should never be brought up when discussing the murder of John Kennedy? You don't think the two crimes are in any way related?

You can bring up what you like, but Tippit evidence is not JFK evidence.

[Andrew Mason]

It's not possible to fully and properly discuss the JFK assassination without also discussing the Tippit murder. Can't be done. Because the two murders (just 45 minutes apart) are inexorably linked.

Are you actually implying, John, that the Tippit case should never be brought up when discussing the murder of John Kennedy? You don't think the two crimes are in any way related?

I agree completely.  This case might have been a bit more of a "whodunnit" if Oswald had remained in the TSBD.  But he didn't.  He left in a hurry, got his revolver and shot the first person who tried to stop him. The firing pin marks on the shells establish conclusively that they were fired from Oswald's revolver.

Then, in the Texas Theatre, he assaulted his arresting officer and pulled his gun from his waist band, said "Well, it's all over now" and pressed the trigger.  Not the actions of someone who had no reason to fear arrest.

It turns out that upon the arrest of Oswald in the Texas Theatre for the murder of Officer Tippit it is learned that he is the same person identified as a suspect in the JFK assassination.  Hmmm....  Now the shooting of Officer Tippit begins to make some sense.  Then you have the link of Oswald to the rifle in the TSBD, the taking of a long package to work that morning, the previous use of that rifle to attempt a similar assassination corroborated by photographs and a letter, etc. etc.  The murder of JFK and of Officer Tippit tied to the same person in these circumstances become inextricably linked.

All of these things just happened independently and coincidentally? That is the only other possibility.  Most would say that is not a reasonable possibility.

[David Von Pein]

The only thing that links them is your belief that the same person committed both crimes. That’s it.

And the fact that more than half-a-dozen witnesses positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald as either the man who shot J.D. Tippit or as the man they saw leaving the immediate area of the shooting with a gun in his hand doesn't mean anything to you, does it John?

And the fact that this same man named Lee Harvey Oswald was also the Book Depository employee whose rifle was found in the Depository on 11/22/63, which was proven to be the rifle that murdered President Kennedy, also means zilch to you, correct John?

A kindergarten student with massive learning disabilities could easily tie these two crimes together. But, for some reason known only to a higher power, conspiracy theorists can never manage to do it.

A final thought (a reprise from Page 6):