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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2022, 11:01:16 AM »
Let's examine the facts of "Oswald's own actions" on 11/21 and 11/22. On 11/21 he went to work as normal, asked Frazier for a ride to Irving, went to Irving to visit his wife and kids and stayed the night. The next morning, he walks over to Frazier's home, for the ride back to the TSBD, where he worked normally that morning.

Lets see what Oswald did 'normally' on 21/22

Asked Frazier for a ride to Irving
_ Normally done on a Friday
_ Cites his need for curtain rods from Ruth's garage: Not normal
_ Does not call Ruth to ask for her permission to visit: Not normal

Went to Irving to visit his wife and kids and stayed the night
_ So far, so good. Uh, oh: Morning comes, Oswald buggers off after
   leaving money & wedding ring behind: Not normal

The next morning, he walks over to Frazier's home, for the ride back to the TSBD, where he worked normally that morning.
_Puts sizeable bag in his ride rather than politely wait for Buell. Putting sizeable bags in people's cars: Not  normal.
_Walks ever faster ahead of Buell towards TSBD: Not normal
_Shots fired. Not normal.

Conclusion: Not a normal 21/22 for Oswald


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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2022, 02:52:15 PM »
The only thing not normal is you!

Thanks for the compliment
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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2022, 03:07:11 PM »
What a surprise. CTer Martin is just like all other JFK conspiracy theorists --- a total failure at math. (Particularly addition.)

Let's have a look at another CTer who garnered an F- in the subject of "Adding Things Up":



Posting the police mug shot is a stupid (and desperate ) attempt at framing Lee Oswald.   Lee said that he was in the first floor lunchroom at the time that President Kennedy passed by the TSBD.   And that claim is verified by his statement that he saw Jarman and Norman walk by the lunchroom as he sat there eating his lunch.  Jarman and Norman confirmed Lee's claim.   They swore that they did in deed walk by the lunchroom at 12:27.

Give it up Von P ......  You're looking more and more foolish in your attempts to make the fairy tale believable. 

Referring to the travesty of framing Lee Oswald as a "fairy tale" is wrong.....  Fairy tales are happy and fun fictional tales. There is nothing happy, or funny, about the lies that have been presented in the  desperate attempt to convict Lee Oswald.   Posting the police mug shot is a really cheap shot, and a clear sign of your desperation Von P.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2022, 03:58:33 PM »
What a surprise! When a LN can not convincingly argue the "facts" he simply attacks the person who questions those "facts".

There isn't a better show of utter weakness than this.

And btw, as it has already been conclusively established beyond doubt that you edit the information on your own blogs, I am not going to bother reading it, as there is no way to be sure that it is a fair representation of what people have said.

The bottom line is a simple one; DVP can not explain how "taking a bulky package to work with him and lying (twice) to Buell Frazier", "Walking several blocks east of the TSBD just minutes after a Presidential assassination in order to catch a bus", "Getting off the bus just a few minutes after boarding it and then getting into a taxicab to take him to his roominghouse", "having the cab driver take him three blocks beyond his real destination" and "Dashing in and out of his room on Beckley in order to [allegedly] grab his .38 revolver" constitutes evidence of a murder. The reason is equally simple; even if all of it is true (which is questionable) it still does not constitute anything of the kind.

It's extremely weak circumstantial BS used as window dressing to make Oswald somehow look suspicious and thus guilty.

The bottom line is a simple one; DVP can not explain how "taking a bulky package to work with him and lying (twice) to Buell Frazier", "Walking several blocks east of the TSBD just minutes after a Presidential assassination in order to catch a bus", "Getting off the bus just a few minutes after boarding it and then getting into a taxicab to take him to his roominghouse", "having the cab driver take him three blocks beyond his real destination" and "Dashing in and out of his room on Beckley in order to [allegedly] grab his .38 revolver" constitutes evidence of a murder. The reason is equally simple; even if all of it is true (which is questionable) it still does not constitute anything of the kind.

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TAKEN INDIVIDUALLY
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Taking a bulky package to work with him and lying (twice) to Buell Frazier
_ Constitutes 'Taking a bulky package to work with him and lying (twice) to Buell Frazier'

Walking several blocks east of the TSBD just minutes after a Presidential assassination in order to catch a bus
_ Constitutes 'Walking several blocks east of the TSBD just minutes after a Presidential assassination in order to catch a bus'

Getting off the bus just a few minutes after boarding it and then getting into a taxicab to take him to his roominghouse
_Constitutes 'Getting off the bus just a few minutes after boarding it and then getting into a taxicab to take him to his roominghouse'

Having the cab driver take him three blocks beyond his real destination and and Dashing in and out of his room on Beckley in order to [allegedly] grab his .38 revolver
_ Constitutes 'having the cab driver take him three blocks beyond his real destination and and Dashing in and out of his room on Beckley in order to [allegedly] grab his .38 revolver'

'Constitutes evidence of a murder.' The reason is equally simple; even if all of it is true (which is questionable) it still does not constitute anything of the kind.
_ Well, at least not until these individual observations (and others) are packaged up, along with Patton Ground Zero, and presented in court  ;)

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2022, 04:08:49 PM »
Except the CTers will hate hate hate the Mexico City segment because his handwriting is on the hotel register and the Russians confirmed that they met and spoke with the real LHO.

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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2022, 04:20:56 PM »
Except the CTers will hate hate hate the Mexico City segment because his handwriting is on the hotel register and the Russians confirmed that they met and spoke with the real LHO.
Yep. And twenty years ago or so the same people who insist he was impersonated would have been saying, "Interview the Soviet embassy people! They'll expose the impersonation." So the Embassy people are interviewed and say the man they met was Oswald. Is that now accepted? Of course not. It's still not enough. For some, it's never enough.

The three KGB agents - senior agents - met him over two days and for several hours. They were shown the photo of the supposed impostor and all said that that was not the man who identified himself as Oswald.
On the second meeting, a Saturday, he is, they say, acting very erratically and nervously and at one point pulls out a revolver. They are stunned and are studying him very carefully. "Who is this guy?"

One of the agents, Oleg Nechiporenko, wrote this (from his book "Passport to Assassination"):



So an impostor does this? Draws very close attention to himself? Sorry, that makes no sense to me.

I'll also suggest that a person in this condition, who believes he is being persecuted by the US government, who believes his life is in danger just might do something drastic. With a rifle. And with a revolver. The revolver he said he needed to protect himself.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2022, 04:42:18 PM »
Posting the police mug shot is a stupid (and desperate ) attempt at framing Lee Oswald.   Lee said that he was in the first floor lunchroom at the time that President Kennedy passed by the TSBD.   And that claim is verified by his statement that he saw Jarman and Norman walk by the lunchroom as he sat there eating his lunch.  Jarman and Norman confirmed Lee's claim.   They swore that they did in deed walk by the lunchroom at 12:27.

Give it up Von P ......  You're looking more and more foolish in your attempts to make the fairy tale believable. 

Referring to the travesty of framing Lee Oswald as a "fairy tale" is wrong.....  Fairy tales are happy and fun fictional tales. There is nothing happy, or funny, about the lies that have been presented in the  desperate attempt to convict Lee Oswald.   Posting the police mug shot is a really cheap shot, and a clear sign of your desperation Von P.

Cue violins: Yet another loser's lament from the far side of the lunatic fringe
Stop sobbing. And it was Oswald taking the real cheap shots

Meanwhile, from Hell:


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