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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? | FRONTLINE
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2022, 02:34:19 AM »
What a surprise. CTer Martin is just like all other JFK conspiracy theorists --- a total failure at math. (Particularly addition.)

Let's have a look at another CTer who garnered an F- in the subject of "Adding Things Up":


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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2022, 04:54:53 AM »
John knows there's more than enough "actual evidence" to hang Oswald 20 times over (for TWO murders).

Anything can be called evidence, and very often is, but that doesn't mean it's conclusive or actual proof of anything.

And John also knows full well that Oswald's own actions on 11/21 and 11/22 would have convicted him if he had made it to trial too.


Amazing stupidity! Let's examine the facts of "Oswald's own actions" on 11/21 and 11/22. On 11/21 he went to work as normal, asked Frazier for a ride to Irving, went to Irving to visit his wife and kids and stayed the night. The next morning, he walks over to Frazier's home, for the ride back to the TSBD, where he worked normally that morning.

Those are the undisputed facts and none of it would have resulted in a conviction at trial.

Everything that happened between Kennedy's killing, at 12:30, and Oswald's arrest at the Texas Theater are allegations based on speculation and highly questionable evidence and witness testimony. The only really established fact is the arrest at the Texas Theater. Everything else would be scrutinized (imo much of it succesfully) by the defense.

To claim that Oswald would have been convicted based on his actions on 11/21 and 11/22 is just plain ridiculous and extremely naive.

Let's examine the facts of "Oswald's own actions" on 11/21 and 11/22. On 11/21 he went to work as normal, asked Frazier for a ride to Irving, went to Irving to visit his wife and kids and stayed the night. The next morning, he walks over to Frazier's home, for the ride back to the TSBD, where he worked normally that morning.

Lets see what Oswald did 'normally' on 21/22

Asked Frazier for a ride to Irving
_ Normally done on a Friday
_ Cites his need for curtain rods from Ruth's garage: Not normal
_ Does not call Ruth to ask for her permission to visit: Not normal

Went to Irving to visit his wife and kids and stayed the night
_ So far, so good. Uh, oh: Morning comes, Oswald buggers off after
   leaving money & wedding ring behind: Not normal

The next morning, he walks over to Frazier's home, for the ride back to the TSBD, where he worked normally that morning.
_Puts sizeable bag in his ride rather than politely wait for Buell. Putting sizeable bags in people's cars: Not  normal.
_Walks ever faster ahead of Buell towards TSBD: Not normal
_Shots fired. Not normal.

Conclusion: Not a normal 21/22 for Oswald


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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2022, 06:00:07 AM »
And the above quote by John is one of the things that CTers love to do when they decide to pretend there's no "actual evidence" at all against that poor sapling named Oswald.

John knows there's more than enough "actual evidence" to hang Oswald 20 times over (for TWO murders). But the CT gene inside him won't let him type it on his keyboard.

And John also knows full well that Oswald's own actions on 11/21 and 11/22 would have convicted him if he had made it to trial too. But, again, John's CT gene won't allow him to admit the obvious.

Is this posturing supposed to prove something?

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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2022, 06:05:48 AM »
What a surprise. CTer Martin is just like all other JFK conspiracy theorists --- a total failure at math. (Particularly addition.)

What a surprise. WC evangelist DVP makes a series of speculative claims that he cannot even demonstrate are actually true and pretends that they are evidence of presidential murder.

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2022, 06:09:19 AM »
And now we learn from the resident clown that doing things that are deemed “not normal” is somehow evidence of murder.

If Oswald wore boxers instead of briefs, that would end up on the “evidence” list too.

Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2022, 06:41:18 AM »
And now we learn from the resident clown that doing things that are deemed “not normal” is somehow evidence of murder.

If Oswald wore boxers instead of briefs, that would end up on the “evidence” list too.

You lot are running scared: Show us where I conclude anything but that Oswald did not have a normal 21/22

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald? | FRONTLINE
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2022, 10:57:06 AM »
What a surprise. CTer Martin is just like all other JFK conspiracy theorists --- a total failure at math. (Particularly addition.)

Let's have a look at another CTer who garnered an F- in the subject of "Adding Things Up":



What a surprise! When a LN can not convincingly argue the "facts" he simply attacks the person who questions those "facts".

There isn't a better show of utter weakness than this.

And btw, as it has already been conclusively established beyond doubt that you edit the information on your own blogs, I am not going to bother reading it, as there is no way to be sure that it is a fair representation of what people have said.

The bottom line is a simple one; DVP can not explain how "taking a bulky package to work with him and lying (twice) to Buell Frazier", "Walking several blocks east of the TSBD just minutes after a Presidential assassination in order to catch a bus", "Getting off the bus just a few minutes after boarding it and then getting into a taxicab to take him to his roominghouse", "having the cab driver take him three blocks beyond his real destination" and "Dashing in and out of his room on Beckley in order to [allegedly] grab his .38 revolver" constitutes evidence of a murder. The reason is equally simple; even if all of it is true (which is questionable) it still does not constitute anything of the kind.

It's extremely weak circumstantial BS used as window dressing to make Oswald somehow look suspicious and thus guilty.
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