The bus transfer

[Mitch Todd]

We already know from many of your past posts you engage in "selective memory" so spare us the B.S.

Whatever you may think of Bill's memory, he's right about what Craig said. This is the section of the LAFP interview:

FP: Do you know what time he was killed?

RC: It was about 1:40—

PJ: No, I think It was a little before 1:15.

RC: Was it?

That isn't the only reference to the time of the murder:

FP: How did you become aware of the Tippit killing? Where were you?

RC: I was in front of the Depository. I went upstairs with the first bunch, and then just a little bit later I was back downstairs. They sent me to get some lights to examine the dark corners. And I passed a patrol car on the street and heard the radio.

Compare this to what he would write a few years later in When They Kill a President:

At that exact moment [when Craig claimed that Weitzman identified the rifle as a Mauser] an unknown Dallas police officer came running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a Dallas policeman had been shot in the Oak Cliff area. I instinctively looked at my watch. The time was 1:06 p.m. A token force of uniformed officers was left to keep the sixth floor secure and Fritz, Day, Boone, Mooney, Weitzman and I left the building.

So, which of Craig's stories is the right one? They can't both be true. The LFP one? The later WTKaP one? Or maybe neither? The world wonders!

[Mitch Todd]

OK I guess I am just a TERRIBLE judge of character. Shame on me for believing that Roger Craig!

So who else described timing of the events of the day?

Mrs. Frank Wright called in the shooting at 1:07 p.m. (so the shooting was no later than 1:06 pm)

T.F. Bowley used Tippit's radio to call in the shooting at 1:09 p.m.

Also it is well documented that the ambulance arrived by 1:15 p.m.

The timeline does not work to get LHO from standing at the bus stop near his rooming house to the murder scene a mile away in a couple minutes and do the dirty deed in that time as well.

Well, you seem to be a terrible judge of most things. Mrs Wright never said what that she called. The DPD radio dispatcher doesn't mention her address, 501 E 10th, until after 1:19. Bowley's radio call doesn't occur until right about the tip of 1:18. Given Callaway's testimony, the ambulance arrives about 1:20. What do you use for sources, or do you just make it up as you go alaong?

[Mitch Todd]

Poor little gullible Mitch seems to have full confidence in the DPD doctored radio logs.
Gullible much Mitch? Or are you on the government payroll? 

You have nothing to counter what I said about Mrs Wright.

I use the Russ Shearer Channel 1 transcript, which was taken from a recording of the channel one dictabelt. It was created independently of the DPD, SS, or FBI transcripts. I also have a copy of the Dix channel one recording. You'll have to reach further down in your Big Bag of Bogus BS for your next attempt at a rebuttal. As for Mrs Wright, I've already pointed out that she didn't say when she called the DPD, so your reference to her is puzzling. You're unable to source your claim, so apparently you're even more puzzled than I about the issue.

[Mitch Todd]

T.F. Bowley AFFIDAVIT OF FACT: "I stopped my car and got out to go to the scene. I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 p.m."

Your Bowley call at 1:18 is total garbage. Give it up bud

Bowley himself has said that his watch could be 5 minutes off of standard time, which would be expected uncertainty for the average Joe's watch in 1963.

Simulcast transmissions broadcast on both DPD channels show that channel one time and channel two time are within one minute of each other. the "12:30 KKB" transmission on channel two lies between Cussy's "approaching triple underpass" and "go to the hospital" transmissions, placing the assassination at 12:30 channel two time. The McIntire photo shows the Hertz clock displaying "12:30" as the limousine passes the lead car between the TP and the I335E ramp. The watches of Kellerman, Dave Powers, and Sorrels also put the assassination at 12:30. From this, channel one is within one minute of channel two, and channel two is within one minute of standard time. 

Putting this all together, If Bowley's watch is 5 minutes slow and channel one time is two minutes fast, then the two can coincide. Bowley looked at his watch at some short amount of time before he picked up the mic in car #10, which would account for any remaining discrepancy.

You are way behind the curve.


 

[Mitch Todd]

I am not confused but its obvious you are.

You're operating on a combination of bad information, faulty logic, and ill-advised smugness.

[Tim Nickerson]

I use the Russ Shearer Channel 1 transcript, which was taken from a recording of the channel one dictabelt. It was created independently of the DPD, SS, or FBI transcripts. I also have a copy of the Dix channel one recording. You'll have to reach further down in your Big Bag of Bogus BS for your next attempt at a rebuttal. As for Mrs Wright, I've already pointed out that she didn't say when she called the DPD, so your reference to her is puzzling. You're unable to source your claim, so apparently you're even more puzzled than I about the issue.

I use the Russ Shearer  transcripts as well. What Mongo doesn't realize is that the time stamps were voice call outs.  Or maybe he does realize it and he's just being dishonest.

[John Mytton]

Well, you seem to be a terrible judge of most things. Mrs Wright never said what that she called. The DPD radio dispatcher doesn't mention her address, 501 E 10th, until after 1:19. Bowley's radio call doesn't occur until right about the tip of 1:18. Given Callaway's testimony, the ambulance arrives about 1:20. What do you use for sources, or do you just make it up as you go alaong?

Another reliable eyewitness is Cab Driver Scoggins who was in the middle of his work day and on his lunch break, so would have been especially aware of the time and he says about "1:20".

Mr. DULLES. What time was this, approximately, as far as you can recall?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Around 1:20 in the afternoon.

Scoggins struggles to get through to dispatch and then speaks for a couple of minutes and about this time the Ambulance arrives, meanwhile dispatch records the time at 1:23.

Mr. DULLES. What did you tell your dispatcher?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I told him there had been a policeman shot at 10th and Patton, and you see they have a number of cars they are talking to, you know, and I had to holler about three or four times before I got his attention, and then I seen I wasn't going to get through to him, so I just hollered there had been a policeman shot at 10th and Patton, and then they went to talking to me then.
Mr. DULLES. What did they say to you then?
Mr. SCOGGINS. The first thing they says is do they need an ambulance, and I says, "Sure." And they wanted to know the exact location, and I said right off east of 10th and Patton, and the ambulance was only a block and a quarter or so from the scene, you see, and they just come on right around there.
Mr. DULLES. And this conversation took you a minute or two, would you estimate?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes, a couple of minutes, I would say. It was pretty close

Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether or not your dispatcher recorded any time on his sheets as to the time you called in after the Tippit shooting?
Mr. SCOGGINS. When I was down there giving my statement to my supervisor, he asked me what time it was, and I said I don't have any idea, so he picked up the phone and called the dispatcher, and he said it was 1:23.
Mr. BELIN. That is the time that he recorded it?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes. He must have recorded it up there because he said it was 1:23 in the afternoon.
Mr. BELIN. When you called in after the shooting?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes.

JohnM