Geneva Hine

[Bill Chapman]

No conspiracy needed:

Shots fired.
Oswald buggers off w/out permission
On an adrenalin high, having just slain the most powerful man in the world
"Oops, better get my arse off the street...too many eyeballs-on"
Sits there, thinking.. "fck this is nerve wracking... thats it, I'm outta here".

[John Iacoletti]

So John answers your question - "Nobody says the lights wents out" - meaning there is no witness who supports your interpretation of Hine's words, there is no other witness who says "all the lights went out". (and he's right, there isn't)

What a bizarre interpretation. “Nobody” means nobody. It doesn’t mean nobody besides Geneva Hine.

Then John turns it back to you - "and now you" - meaning he's answered your question, now it's your turn to answer his question.

It’s completely irrelevant to the question of what Hine meant when she said the lights all went out.

He then restates his question - "who corroborated your interpretation of Hine's words."

This is silly. Nobody can corroborate anybody’s interpretation of what Hine meant. Interpretations are completely subjective. Maybe if Ball was really interested in finding out what happened instead of leading witnesses, he would have just asked her what she meant.

[John Iacoletti]

In typical fashion, John Iacoletti avoids the real question. The real question is:

Are you arguing that Geneva Hine was referring to the building lights (not the phone lights) when she made her statement?

I seriously doubt that John Iacoletti will ever provide a straight answer to this question. So please, no one hold their breath…     

No. I’m not arguing a thing that I never said. How should I know if the power in the entire building went out? All I know is that Hines said “all the lights went out”. And nobody knows exactly what she meant by that because it’s ambiguous at best.

[John Iacoletti]

“Richard” wrote:

In real life, however, random or pointless events often occur.  Sometimes the power does go out.  Sometimes people get stuck in traffic jams.  Sometimes you encounter people who are not very bright and have to explain things to them.  The world is an imperfect place.

Sometimes people think that they can “explain” things that they have no way of knowing.

[John Iacoletti]

I could have missed something, but all I remember John Iacoletti saying is that Geneva Hine didn’t say that the lights on the phones went out. I don’t think that John Iacoletti has taken any kind of position whatsoever regarding which lights he thinks she was referring to. If we wanted to lower ourselves to the level of John Iacoletti’s playing field, we could simply say that Geneva Hine didn’t say that the building lights all went out either. Instead, we present ample evidence that the building lights didn’t go out.

What “ample evidence”? All I see is a bunch of conjecture. I do understand that LN evangelists often confuse the two.

Assume what you like, but at least admit that’s what you’re doing.

[John Iacoletti]

Isn’t it funny how “Richard” knows exactly what “conspirators” would or would not do in any possible situation, but when it comes to why Oswald would do this or that suddenly it’s “eh…random events happen”.

[Charles Collins]

What “ample evidence”? All I see is a bunch of conjecture. I do understand that LN evangelists often confuse the two.

Assume what you like, but at least admit that’s what you’re doing.

What “ample evidence?


Evidence of what? If you aren’t arguing that Geneva Hine meant the building lights, we have nothing to discuss. You are simply wasting everyone’s time.