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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #315 on: February 12, 2022, 12:59:39 AM »
Here's what Ms Ruth Paine told Secret Service on 26 November about blanket, package, rifle:




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« Reply #316 on: February 12, 2022, 01:20:48 PM »
The Klein's documents confirm Oswald was sent a rifle with a specific serial number.

No they don't

Oswald's wife confirms he received a rifle in this timeframe.

No she didn't

He is pictured holding that rifle.

Wrong. He's pictured holding a rifle. The serial number of the rifle can not be read.

His prints are found on that rifle.

There is no certainty this is actually true. The FBI found no prints on the rifle when they examined it only hours after the crime

Marina confirms he stored that rifle in the Paine's garage.

No she didn't

That rifle is gone and can't be accounted for in any other manner except as the one found in the TSBD after the assassination.

There is no proof that the MC rifle found at the TSBD (or any other rifle for that matter) was ever stored in Ruth Paine's garage.

That rifle has the same serial numbers as the one sent to Oswald.

There is no evidence that a rifle was actually sent to Oswald. All you can say is that the rifle found at the TSBD has the same serial number as the handwritten number on Waldman 7, which is proof of absolutely nothing as the document can not be authenticated.

But even if you want to come to that conclusion, there is absolutely no doubt that the rifle found in the TSBD belonged to Oswald - regardless of what defense attorney narrative you wish to entertain about where he kept the rifle.

Oh there is doubt alright. Just not in your mind, but that's just your opinion and the bad news for you is that your opinion is frequently wrong and nothing more than a premature conclusion based on speculation.

Great post.

I'll add that no one knows where LHO acquired the bullets for the Carcano. The FBI did look into that issue but never identified where he might've gotten his bullets.

Also, are we to believe Oswald owned no more than three bullets by 11/22/63? Did anyone find the rest of the Carcano bullets he allegedly owned?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #317 on: February 12, 2022, 06:25:45 PM »
This is rich. If someone in Texas had recalled selling some loose rounds or a box of cheap surplus ammunition to the lackluster Oswald, the loons would be asking how is it possible to remember back to such a nondescript mundane transaction? The sales clerk must be in on the conspiracy to frame 'Lil' Lee.

argumentum ad absurdum

Classic LN, used every time they have nothing significant to say.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2022, 06:27:47 PM by Martin Weidmann »

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #318 on: February 13, 2022, 04:44:04 PM »
Great post.

I'll add that no one knows where LHO acquired the bullets for the Carcano. The FBI did look into that issue but never identified where he might've gotten his bullets.

Also, are we to believe Oswald owned no more than three bullets by 11/22/63? Did anyone find the rest of the Carcano bullets he allegedly owned?

You think the Klein's documents are manipulated to falsely indicate that Oswald was sent a rifle with a specific serial number, that the BY photos do not depict Oswald holding the rifle left at the TSBD (with that same serial number) as experts have confirmed, that the DPD lied about finding Oswald's palmprint on that rifle, that Marina's WC testimony does not indicate that Oswald kept his rifle in the Paine's garage (despite her saying so in her testimony and directing the DPD to the garage when they ask about Oswald owning a rifle), that there is no accounting for Oswald's rifle except as the one found in the TSBD (he clearly possessed a rifle as shown by the BY photos and confirmed by his wife).  Oswald lies about his ownership of ANY rifle.  No other rifle is ever associated with him or accounted for in any manner to explain the Klein's documents, photos, and Marina's testimony.  It just vanishes into the ether if it is not the one found in the TSBD.  Unreal.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #319 on: February 13, 2022, 06:22:00 PM »
You think the Klein's documents are manipulated to falsely indicate that Oswald was sent a rifle with a specific serial number, that the BY photos do not depict Oswald holding the rifle left at the TSBD (with that same serial number) as experts have confirmed, that the DPD lied about finding Oswald's palmprint on that rifle, that Marina's WC testimony does not indicate that Oswald kept his rifle in the Paine's garage (despite her saying so in her testimony and directing the DPD to the garage when they ask about Oswald owning a rifle), that there is no accounting for Oswald's rifle except as the one found in the TSBD (he clearly possessed a rifle as shown by the BY photos and confirmed by his wife).  Oswald lies about his ownership of ANY rifle.  No other rifle is ever associated with him or accounted for in any manner to explain the Klein's documents, photos, and Marina's testimony.  It just vanishes into the ether if it is not the one found in the TSBD.  Unreal.

Richard "Strawman" Smith strikes again by telling somebody else what [he believes] they think. Hilarious!

You think the Klein's documents are manipulated to falsely indicate that Oswald was sent a rifle with a specific serial number,

The Kleins'documents do not indicate anything of the kind.

that the BY photos do not depict Oswald holding the rifle left at the TSBD (with that same serial number) as experts have confirmed,

No expert has ever confirmed that the rifle Oswald is holding in the BY photos has the same serial number as the rifle found at the TSBD

that the DPD lied about finding Oswald's palmprint on that rifle,

Not the DPD, but Lt Day may well have. The FBI checked the rifle for prints within hours after the assassination and found no prints or even a trace of a print on it.

that Marina's WC testimony does not indicate that Oswald kept his rifle in the Paine's garage

The same Marina couldn't identify the MC rifle they found at the TSBD, as being "his rifle", when it was shown to her on Friday evening 11/22/63

that there is no accounting for Oswald's rifle except as the one found in the TSBD

Utter BS... Even if Marina did see a rifle wrapped in a blanket in Ruth Paine's garage, that happened in late September 1963. Nobody saw the rifle after that and it could have been removed weeks before the assassination without anyone knowing it. There is not a shred of evidence that the rifle found at the TSBD was ever in Ruth Paine's garage.

(he clearly possessed a rifle as shown by the BY photos and confirmed by his wife)

There is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald possessed a rifle in November 1963. The BY photos were taken in March 1963 and they do not show anything more than that he was holding a rifle when the photos were taken.

Oswald lies about his ownership of ANY rifle. 

Your assumption that he lied isn't evidence of anything. He may well have told the truth.

No other rifle is ever associated with him or accounted for in any manner to explain the Klein's documents, photos, and Marina's testimony.  It just vanishes into the ether if it is not the one found in the TSBD.

Is there a law that says that if you buy a rifle in March 1963, you can not dispose of it and have to keep it until at least 11/22/63?

It seems that the only way Richard Smith can even present a superficial case is by doing away with just about all the standard rules of evidence, misrepresenting the evidence and jumping to questionable conclusions that are not supported by the evidence.
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #320 on: February 13, 2022, 09:20:14 PM »
Richard "Strawman" Smith strikes again by telling somebody else what [he believes] they think.
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