Oliver Stone Talks to Jacobin About JFK’s Killing

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oliver Stone Talks to Jacobin About JFK’s Killing
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2021, 02:22:12 AM »
Not all that long ago, Mytton posted a copy of the Carcano entry in the Klein's ad from the April, '63 issue or American Rifleman. The April issue would have been published at the beginning of March, so this advertisement reflects what Klein's was offering at the time the A Hidell order was fulfilled. In this ad, C20-T750 refers to the 40" FC rather than the 36" TS rifle advertised as C20-T750. Oswald got exactly what he ordered, if not exactly what he thought he ordered.



Except of course that Department 358 on the envelope indicated that the order form came from an earlier advertisment and most certainly not from the April issue.

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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2021, 06:04:23 AM »
Except of course that Department 358 on the envelope indicated that the order form came from an earlier advertisment and most certainly not from the April issue.
As usual...an ounce of guesses for a tanker full of questions.
So Ruth lied and she knew about the rifle all of the time?...Even tucked it nicely away on her garage floor.  Thumb1:
BTW...how many gun magazines were found in Oswald's possessions? 

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Re: Oliver Stone Talks to Jacobin About JFK’s Killing
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2021, 06:14:46 AM »
  JFK's intentions regarding Vietnam:
https://americandiplomacy.web.unc.edu/2020/11/without-dallas-john-f-kennedy-and-the-vietnam-war/
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What if the most famous murder in history had not taken place on November 22, 1963? With a life and a presidency ended prematurely by an assassin’s bullets, there has been an understandable impulse on the part of historians to consider what would have happened to Kennedy had he lived beyond Dallas.   
Had the action not happened in Dallas...It would have happened in Los Angeles or New York or even in Washington D C. Kennedy was a marked man..doomed to go in advance of another election...It was just in his cards.

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Re: Oliver Stone Talks to Jacobin About JFK’s Killing
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2021, 06:19:42 AM »
As usual...an ounce of guesses for a tanker full of questions.
So Ruth lied and she knew about the rifle all of the time?...Even tucked it nicely away on her garage floor.  Thumb1:
BTW...how many gun magazines were found in Oswald's possessions?

And he apparently owned no more than three bullets since no additional bullets were found in his belongings...

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Re: Oliver Stone Talks to Jacobin About JFK’s Killing
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2021, 06:32:07 AM »
Except of course that Department 358 on the envelope indicated that the order form came from an earlier advertisment and most certainly not from the April issue.
So what? Why would that have made a difference to the people who actually fulfilled the order?

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2021, 11:41:04 AM »
So what? Why would that have made a difference to the people who actually fulfilled the order?

If you need to ask, then you don't understand how Klein's worked.

They needed to know the Department number to fill the order correctly, exactly because in later issues of the magazine (with different department numbers) there could be changes.

Mr. BELIN. Can you just give us one or more of the magazines in which this coupon might have been taken?
Mr. WALDMAN. Well, this coupon was specifically taken from American Rifleman Magazine, issue of February 1963. It's identified by the department number which is shown as--now, if I can read this--shown as Department 358 on the coupon.
Mr. BELIN. And that number also appears in the address on the envelope to you, is that correct, or to your company?
Mr. WALDMAN. That's correct.

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Re: Oliver Stone Talks to Jacobin About JFK’s Killing
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2021, 04:51:27 PM »
What's the evidence to support such a claim?

No scientific evidence-just personal experience.