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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #1792 on: December 17, 2023, 08:13:56 AM »
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Talk about a lack of confidence in Old Joe.  This means that Congress - both Dems and Repubs = think Trump is winning in 2024.  LOL.


"Congress this week approved a measure aimed at preventing any U.S. president from unilaterally withdrawing the United States from NATO without congressional approval."


Imagine if NATO countries were actually required to pay their fair and agreed upon share instead of the US bearing the entire burden of defending them.  What a dictator Trump must be to suggest that "Europe" pay at least a very small amount for their own defense.
The difference is Trump withdrew U.S. commitment to defend NATO allies in event of attack whether they spent more on their own defense or not.
Trump can always be counted on to please Putin by stoking uncertainty and division instead of unity and resolve!

Trump pushes NATO allies to spend more, but so did Obama and Bush

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/obama-and-bush-also-pressed-nato-allies-to-spend-more-on-defense.html
Jul 11, 2018 — Bush and Barack Obama regularly expressed frustration with NATO member governments for not spending more of their domestic budgets on defense.```````````````````````

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Contrary to Trump's assertions, European members of NATO  & Canada *increased* their defense spending in 2015 and 2016, *before* Trump took office!

Also, NATO countries don't "pay up." They pledge some % of GDP on their *own* military + a small stipend for NATO headquarters.

https://twitter.com/PFr1end/status/1459228775724507141
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President Obama also urged European NATO members to contribute their full share to the alliance, saying that "Europe has sometimes been complacent about its own defense." (April 25th 2016)

Obama urges NATO members to pull their weight 15th (November 2016)  https://t.co/U9QtinTMT5                   

 Destabilizing on Putin's behalf!     

Fears of a NATO Withdrawal Rise as Trump Seeks ...

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Dec 9, 2023 — Mr. Trump likes to brag that he privately told leaders of NATO countries that if Russia attacked them and they had not paid the money they owed ...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #1792 on: December 17, 2023, 08:13:56 AM »


Online Richard Smith

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Re: U.S. Politics
« Reply #1793 on: December 17, 2023, 06:26:50 PM »
The difference is Trump withdrew U.S. commitment to defend NATO allies in event of attack whether they spent more on their own defense or not.
Trump can always be counted on to please Putin by stoking uncertainty and division instead of unity and resolve!

Trump pushes NATO allies to spend more, but so did Obama and Bush

CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/obama-and-bush-also-pressed-nato-allies-to-spend-more-on-defense.html
Jul 11, 2018 — Bush and Barack Obama regularly expressed frustration with NATO member governments for not spending more of their domestic budgets on defense.```````````````````````

https://twitter.com/PFr1end/status/1459228775724507141
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President Obama also urged European NATO members to contribute their full share to the alliance, saying that "Europe has sometimes been complacent about its own defense." (April 25th 2016)

Obama urges NATO members to pull their weight 15th (November 2016)  https://t.co/U9QtinTMT5                   

 Destabilizing on Putin's behalf!     

Fears of a NATO Withdrawal Rise as Trump Seeks ...

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics
Dec 9, 2023 — Mr. Trump likes to brag that he privately told leaders of NATO countries that if Russia attacked them and they had not paid the money they owed ...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Trump made the entirely reasonable and common-sense suggestion that rather than the US taxpayer footing the bill for the defense of "Europe" that maybe they should pay their minimal obligation.  No sane person could take issue with that.  Many of the members of NATO refuse to pay their miniscule part while the US foots the entire bill.  They can have their socialist utopias because the US has paid for their national defense for 70 years.  Meanwhile the US cities under Dem control are in ruin.  It's insane.  The US military contractors want the US to pay the bill and they control our politicians.  It has nothing to do with security.  It is about controlling the enormous US military budget and dolling out the money to the contractors who kick it back to the politicians in donations.  A vicious cycle that ONLY Trump has the ability to break. 

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« Reply #1794 on: December 17, 2023, 06:29:23 PM »
Magnificent poll numbers once again for Trump.  He has nearly 70% of the Repub support.  More than all the other candidates combined.  Leading Old Joe whose polls numbers are hitting rock bottom as disaster after disaster unfold under his weak and incompetent administration.  Ukraine Joe will go down as the worst modern president in history surpassing Jimmy Carter.  Maybe the worst president in history.

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« Reply #1795 on: December 18, 2023, 01:00:20 AM »
Trump is now saying out loud that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country". Exactly the same rhetoric Hitler used who wanted to keep the Aryan blood pure.

He then goes on and praises Putin, Orbαn and Kim Jong Un....

And Richard wants us to believe that Trump isn't a fascist..... Go figure!

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« Reply #1796 on: December 18, 2023, 07:29:30 PM »
What is Old Joe doing roaming around in Delaware on a rainy night?  And great secret service work when the car crashed into his motorcade.  LOL.  They all stood around gaping including Old Joe staring like a dementia patient.  Thankfully it was just a drunk democrat, and no one was injured but that is lousy Secret service work.  The first instinct should always be to get the president into the car out of harm's way.  Not to freeze and become a spectator. 

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« Reply #1797 on: December 18, 2023, 07:34:57 PM »
Magnificent speech by Trump highlighting the disastrous Biden open border policy that has resulted in potentially 5 million or more unknown aliens being set loose in the US.   No one has a clue who these people are.  Many are from China, the Middle East and Africa.  Undoubtedly many terrorists among them.  Old Joe's own FBI director just confirmed that this is the highest risk level of any recent time.  At the same time, they are opening the border to anyone who wants to cross.  Think about the logical inconsistencies in those policies.  High terrorist risk and open border.  Can people get off of an international flight and run through customs and out of the airport?  Of course not.  They would be arrested and deported.  But five million or more people can do exactly that at the border with no end in sight.   

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« Reply #1798 on: December 18, 2023, 08:34:10 PM »
Magnificent speech by Trump highlighting the disastrous Biden open border policy that has resulted in potentially 5 million or more unknown aliens being set loose in the US.   No one has a clue who these people are.  Many are from China, the Middle East and Africa.  Undoubtedly many terrorists among them.  Old Joe's own FBI director just confirmed that this is the highest risk level of any recent time.  At the same time, they are opening the border to anyone who wants to cross.  Think about the logical inconsistencies in those policies.  High terrorist risk and open border.  Can people get off of an international flight and run through customs and out of the airport?  Of course not.  They would be arrested and deported.  But five million or more people can do exactly that at the border with no end in sight.

A Nazi wannabe that doesn't even blink when his cult master says that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country". Who cares about the opinions of a guy like that?

It won't be long before Trump starts selling brown uniforms....

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« Reply #1799 on: December 18, 2023, 08:55:22 PM »
It just gets worse and worse every day for Old Joe.  His disastrous open border immigration and economic policies are the primary reasons.  The Dems must be in a panic as Trump surges.  When does Ukraine Joe pull the LBJ act and announce that he is dropping out?   

"Only one-third of Americans gave President Biden a thumbs up on the job he is doing in the White House, according to a new national public opinion survey.
The president stands at 34% approval in a Monmouth University poll released on Monday, with 61% giving Biden a thumbs down on his job performance.
The president's approval is at an all-time low in Monmouth polling since Biden took over the White House nearly three years ago."