The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2021, 06:26:27 PM »
Ah... another insult. No surprise there.... But what I don't get is, why would anybody file as a memory for possible future reference an alleged comment (that never happened) by a person, he knows nothing about, on a public forum? Seems a pretty pointless exercise to me. Not that I believe a word you say.....

And calling yourself an "artist" doesn't make you one.

Call it pushback as much as you want. People reading this will understand fully it's a massive compulsion, no more no less.

It's kinda comical for you to say; Your attack-dog, superficial presentation here points directly to you as the insecure party, which makes no sense at all, and then accuse "you lot" (whoever they are) of writing word-salads.

As per usual your all over the place and no doubt your compulsion will make you reply again. When you do, please try a bit more creative in your insults, as so far they have all been boring.

Ah... another insult. No surprise there.... But what I don't get is, why would anybody file as a memory for possible future reference an alleged comment (that never happened) by a person, he knows nothing about, on a public forum? Seems a pretty pointless exercise to me. Not that I believe a word you say.....
_You don't 'get' anything.
_Tell us why I should stand down after you keep hurling insult-upon-insult my way.
_Your word-salads are peppered with enough insults to choke a horse

And calling yourself an "artist" doesn't make you one.
_Others call me an artist.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2021, 06:30:26 PM »
"Chucky"

 :D :D :D

Suits him to a 'T':
Wooden head & no soul

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2021, 06:33:23 PM »
Here is a companion piece to my original article. It discusses a new article by Peter Isackson that Morley is promoting.

http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2021/11/morley-and-monkey.html

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2021, 06:39:14 PM »
Engaging with "Waste of Oxygen" in any way is like playing chess with a pigeon.

It was Oswald, Neil, and he got what he deserved




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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2021, 07:21:13 PM »
Who in the Mexican government from back in 1963 is still serving in their government today?  ???

They’ve gone through several changes in government since the 1960s and the current regime doesn’t have a cozy relationship with the US.

Names of sensitive government assets usually can be redacted.

Does it violate the JFK Records Act to release the records with redactions?
I'm quite sure that some Mexican officials - in their 20s and 30s in 1963 - are still around. Not in government but still alive. You can redact names and still figure out who they were. They were promised anonymity; that doesn't end when they leave government. Especially if they were given money or bribed or broke Mexican/foreign government law.

If you promise people not to reveal their names in return for help and then reveal them don't be surprised if nobody helps you in the future when you ask them.

In any case I'm all for releasing them. It won't satisfy conspiracy people; nothing will. They'll just say it's more evidence of a conspiracy. This has been the most investigated crime/event in US history. Multiple government investigations, multiple news investigations, historians and scholars and investigative reporters have looked into it. They've found nothing. But it doesn't matter. It's always "the Warren Commission did this and the Warren Commission did that." All of these other investigations are ignored.

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2021, 07:56:27 PM »
Engaging with "Waste of Oxygen" in any way is like playing chess with a pigeon.
I'll take the pigeon over you. At least a pigeon sees the chess pieces. You deny that any even exist. They're all lies, fake, staged.

Waitresses, steam fitters, used car salesmen, shoe salesmen, ticket takers, cab drivers....on and on and on. All of them for you just made up fake chess pieces. They don't really exist.

It's easier reasoning with a pigeon than an Alex Jones type conspiracist.



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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: The JFK Files: Rhetoric vs. Truth
« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2021, 08:24:03 PM »
I'm quite sure that some Mexican officials - in their 20s and 30s in 1963 - are still around. Not in government but still alive. You can redact names and still figure out who they were. They were promised anonymity; that doesn't end when they leave government. Especially if they were given money or bribed or broke Mexican/foreign government law. If you promise people not to reveal their names in return for help and then reveal them don't be surprised if nobody helps you in the future when you ask them.

Come on Steve. Do you really believe the current Mexican government doesn't know who those people were?

Same for the Russians. Secrets like that can't be kept forever. By now the Mexicans, Cubans, and Russians know who was working with the US in the 1960s.

Secondly, the entire geopolitical map has changed in the last 60 years.

Fidel Castro is dead. His brother Raul is no longer in charge.
The Soviet Union is long gone

The only consequence of naming names of people who might still be alive are domestic politics. We can be certain that they have legal immunity if they worked for US intelligence but in the court of public opinion, some Americans might suffer depending on the nature of what it is they did. If there are no crimes being covered up, what do those people have to worry about?

Thirdly, the CIA is still fighting disclosure of files involving CIA agents and assets who are long deceased. Which makes even less sense unless there's something nefarious or embarrassing in those remaining files.
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