The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963

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Offline Vincent Baxter

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2021, 08:14:56 PM »
I don't have time to look for old threads so unclear what theory you once discussed or didn't buy.

Well I just told you.

Sorry, I should have highlighted which arguments were put forward by LNers and which were put forward by CTers so you knew which comment to automatically object against

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2021, 09:52:13 PM »
I queried this on here a few months back and I think the logical explanation seemed to be that someone told a policeman that the shots came from the grassy knoll and people followed him as he ran in that direction.
My initial query was that I thought it odd that so many people would have ran towards the knoll if they genuinely believed that's where the gunman was. Surely, most people's natural instinct would be to run away from that area?

 I thought it odd that so many people would have ran towards the knoll if they genuinely believed that's where the gunman was. Surely, most people's natural instinct would be to run away from that area?

Perhaps, but There was more than one policeman converging on the Knoll and going toward the railroad yard behind the picket fence.... So I believe your initial explanation was probably correct....

 I think the logical explanation seemed to be that someone told a policeman that the shots came from the grassy knoll and people followed him as he ran in that direction.

However, I doubt that anybody told the police that the shots came from behind the fence..... Those cops senses told them where the shots had came from...

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2021, 09:57:42 PM »
If you find the old thread, you'll notice that it was your fellow CTer friends who came up with that explanation so you're technically arguing against them, not me.

As I stated, I didn't really buy the theory and still believe most people would have ran away from the area if they genuinely believed that's where the shots were coming from.

But nice to see you taking a stance against the CTers for once rather than just being objective to LNers for the hell of it :)

Anyone in that situation, other than law enforcement, who runs toward gunfire deserves to be shot haha

Offline Vincent Baxter

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2021, 09:58:46 PM »
So your latest theory is that I would automatically object against, say, the LN argument.

Something you can backup with evidence?

WHEN DID I SAY THAT????? (to borrow one of your most overused comebacks)

Christ! You really do take everything so literal, don't you. You must be an absolute hoot at parties.

Person: "Hey, Otto. I've got a joke for you. Why did the chicken cross the road?"
You: "What chicken? Where's your PROOF that he crossed the road? EVIDENCE!"

The above is something I just made up for fun, by the way, before you reply asking me to provide proof that that conversation actually happened.  ::)


Offline Vincent Baxter

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2021, 10:04:08 PM »
Anyone in that situation, other than law enforcement, who runs toward gunfire deserves to be shot haha

Exactly!
It would make more sense that they were running in that direction to get cover, which would suggest the shots were coming anywhere but the knoll.
It would also sound more heroic for witnesses to say they were running towards where they thought the gunman was than to say they were running to a place they felt was more safe because they were scared. But that is just speculation on my part.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2021, 01:23:56 AM »
I queried this on here a few months back and I think the logical explanation seemed to be that someone told a policeman that the shots came from the grassy knoll and people followed him as he ran in that direction.
My initial query was that I thought it odd that so many people would have ran towards the knoll if they genuinely believed that's where the gunman was. Surely, most people's natural instinct would be to run away from that area?

Several witnesses reported hearing gunshots coming from the Knoll.

Some reported seeing smoke or flashes of light from the Knoll.

Not everyone is the same. There are lots of good people who’s first instinct was to find out what was going on or try to apprehend the shooter.


Offline John Mytton

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Re: The grassy knoll gunmen on Nov 21st 1963
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2021, 02:31:37 AM »
The problem is NOBODY ran immediately to the classic position of "behind the fence on the Knoll" till much much later.


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