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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #320 on: September 12, 2021, 07:39:46 PM »
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Clearly you believe Oswald was completely innocent of any shooting, but out of interest, what is your personal thoughts on his alleged account of his own behaviour afterwards?
i.e. casually getting a Coke, walking outside,

Mr Baxter, we know from Agent Hosty's suppressed 11/22 interrogation report that Mr Oswald actually said he bought the Coke and went outside BEFORE Pres. Kennedy passed the building

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Offline Vincent Baxter

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« Reply #321 on: September 12, 2021, 07:54:28 PM »
Mr Baxter, we know from Agent Hosty's suppressed 11/22 interrogation report that Mr Oswald actually said he bought the Coke and went outside BEFORE Pres. Kennedy passed the building

OK, well feel free to change that to: Casually getting a Coke, walking outside, walking back inside and up to the 2nd floor to encounter encounter Roy Truly and Marrion Baker, walking outside again, not showing any interest or concern in what had just happened and then randomly deciding to just get a bus/taxi (let's not get into a debate about his method of transport) to the theatre to watch a movie without informing anyone at TSBD that he had no intention of returning to work after lunch? All this whilst having a revolver shoved down his pants all day (if his claim of going directly to the theatre after the shooting is to be believed).

It doesn't make his behaviour any less odd.

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #322 on: September 12, 2021, 07:54:43 PM »
Mr Baxter, we know from Agent Hosty's suppressed 11/22 interrogation report that Mr Oswald actually said he bought the Coke and went outside BEFORE Pres. Kennedy passed the building

Unqualified nonsense.
Oswald says nothing of the sort.
There is absolutely no indication whether Oswald got outside in time to see JFK pass by.
In fact, Kelly asks Oswald directly if he saw the parade, Oswald replies that he didn't.
When asked if he was in the building (TSBD) at the time of the shooting Oswald confirms he was. On camera.


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #323 on: September 12, 2021, 07:59:11 PM »
Unqualified nonsense.
Oswald says nothing of the sort.

The denial is strong in this one!


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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #324 on: September 12, 2021, 08:07:44 PM »
The denial is strong in this one!



Where, in Hosty's notes, does it say Oswald went outside BEFORE JFK passed by?
It doesn't.
You simply make your own reality up and believe it to be true.
Read Hosty's notes again. He doesn't say anything like what you are insisting he does.

The only denial is when Kelly reported Oswald denied seeing the parade.
When asked if he was in the building at the time of the shooting, Oswald states that he was. Is that denial?

In Hosty's notes Oswald does not say he went outside before JFK passed by.
Can't you acknowledge this simple error by yourself?


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #325 on: September 12, 2021, 08:09:16 PM »
OK, well feel free to change that to: Casually getting a Coke, walking outside, walking back inside and up to the 2nd floor to encounter encounter Roy Truly and Marrion Baker, walking outside again,

Well, once one stops ignoring this explosive document---------



---------the shocking extent to which what Mr Oswald actually said in interrogation was distorted becomes clear.

Mr Oswald never said anything about walking back inside and up to the 2nd floor to encounter Mr Truly and Officer Baker in the lunch room-----------------he said the encounter with the officer and Mr Truly happened at the building's front entrance. This is where DPD (on 11/22/63) told press the encounter happened and where Mr Billy Lovelady (on 11/22/63) told Mr James Jarman he saw the encounter happen.

It was known within a very few hours of the assassination that Mr Oswald had been nowhere near the sixth floor at the time of the motorcade. The 2nd-floor lunchroom encounter was invented to deprive Mr Oswald of his front-entrance alibi for the shooting.

Officer Baker did encounter a man (not Mr Oswald) whom he caught walking away from the rear stairway several floors up the building: his same-day affidavit tells all about it

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #326 on: September 12, 2021, 08:23:09 PM »
Where, in Hosty's notes, does it say Oswald went outside BEFORE JFK passed by?
It doesn't.
You simply make your own reality up and believe it to be true.
Read Hosty's notes again. He doesn't say anything like what you are insisting he does.

The only denial is when Kelly reported Oswald denied seeing the parade.
When asked if he was in the building at the time of the shooting, Oswald states that he was. Is that denial?

In Hosty's notes Oswald does not say he went outside before JFK passed by.
Can't you acknowledge this simple error by yourself?

Nice try, Mr Mytton O'Meara!

If Mr Oswald said he went outside in the erroneous hope of watching the P. Parade but didn't actually get to do so, then Agent Hosty would most certainly have written more than "Then went outside to watch P. Parade". This was, after all, the single most important issue in the entire interrogation: where did the suspect claim to have been at the time of the shooting? As it stands, the words "Then went outside to watch P. Parade" are as clear in import as, say, these ones:



As for the Agent Kelley and "in the building" points, they have already been addressed ad nauseam on this thread

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Offline Vincent Baxter

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #327 on: September 12, 2021, 08:23:23 PM »

It was known within a very few hours of the assassination that Mr Oswald had been nowhere near the sixth floor at the time of the motorcade. The 2nd-floor lunchroom encounter was invented to deprive Mr Oswald of his front-entrance alibi for the shooting.


So the lunchroom encounter was invented?
One of the major arguments amongst CTers is that Oswald could not possibly have gotten down from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor lunchroom in the short space of time from the last shot until the encounter with Truly and Baker, and you're suggesting the meeting was totally made up?
Why if they were going to make it up would they not have added an extra minute or so to the time span to make it more believable then?
By attempting to cover up one alibi all they did was practically create another one.
Doesn't make sense at all
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