Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?  (Read 24383 times)

Offline John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4236
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2021, 12:32:08 AM »
Advertisement
Round and round we go down the rabbit hole.  You asked for evidence of when Oswald used the clipboard. The clipboard contains a notation for 11.22 according to the FBI.  Put on your deerstalker hat and make like Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.   BTW:  you are the one who is suggesting doubt regarding clipboard.  If it was planted, then presumably that was done to implicate Oswald.  Otherwise that would be entirely pointless.  So it is incumbent on you to explain what the clipboard is evidence of.  I have simply suggested that Oswald may have placed the clipboard down when he retrieved his rifle.  Thus, it provides some insight on where his rifle was hidden.

Quote
So it is incumbent on you to explain what the clipboard is evidence of.

In the CT's never ending quest to create doubt, all they have done is reinforce the original evidence which was really never that complicated in the first place, a wife beating, suicidal, traitorous American hating commie/Marxist who wanted political change took a rifle to work and killed the President. End of story.

JohnM

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2021, 12:32:08 AM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2021, 04:46:24 PM »
Round and round we go down the rabbit hole.  You asked for evidence of when Oswald used the clipboard. The clipboard contains a notation for 11.22 according to the FBI.  Put on your deerstalker hat and make like Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.   BTW:  you are the one who is suggesting doubt regarding clipboard.  If it was planted, then presumably that was done to implicate Oswald.  Otherwise that would be entirely pointless.  So it is incumbent on you to explain what the clipboard is evidence of.  I have simply suggested that Oswald may have placed the clipboard down when he retrieved his rifle.  Thus, it provides some insight on where his rifle was hidden.

"it provides some insight on where his rifle was hidden."

"RIFLE WAS HIDDEN"

Thank you for acknowledging that the rifle was HIDDEN.......Nobody who views the official DPD in situ photo would refer to the rifle as "Hidden".....   Nor would Boone or Weitzman have needed a powerful flashlight to see the rifle as it is seen in the DPD photo.    And Weitzman sure as hell couldn't have seen the rifle ( as it is seen in the DPD photo) when he was down on the floor looking beneath the pallet of books.

The evidence and the testimonies of those who saw the rifle on the floor before it was picked up by Lt Day makes it clear that the rifle was well HIDDEN.

Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5047
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2021, 06:50:24 PM »
I've noticed how you're diggin' yourself in, nice!

So far you've failed.

The clipboard does not contain a "notation" for 11.22 according to the FBI.

Not my problem you can't support your wet dream with actual evidence.

Wrong, there are conflicting statements regarding how the clipboard was handled and who were involved.

Genius, did you work that out yourself?

How do I become responsible for your kooked-up fantasy involving a clipboard given a WC evidence number?

"his rifle" -- LOL

There's no supporting evidence for any of your claims, your "insight" is pure speculation. Classic.

Translation:  You suggested doubt as to the clipboard belonging to Oswald but can't articulate why it would be planted.  In fact, you argue it has no probative value.  An argument that entirely contradicts any possible reason for planting the clipboard.  You make false claims and then ask others to disprove them to your satisfaction (Caprio Part II).  And go round and round with semantics to avoid ever answering a direct question. 

"Three invoices on this clipboard, each dated November 22, were for Scott-Foresman books, located on the first and sixth floors. Oswald had not filled any of the three orders." (WCR pg 143)

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2021, 06:50:24 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10812
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2021, 09:01:16 PM »
Let's see.  Kaiser made the clipboard.  His name is on it.  He works there and knows that Oswald uses it.  But there is no evidence that it belongs to Oswald?  HA HA HA.

How does one “make” a clipboard?

How did Kaiser know that Oswald used this one that day or ever if there were no stated identification marks on it. He didn’t say. They didn’t ask. “Richard” just swallows it unquestioningly because that’s what “Richard” does.

Quote
There is no doubt that he was on the 6th floor during points that day.

Bull. The only person to place Oswald on the sixth floor “during that day” was Charles “willing to change his story for money” Givens.

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10812
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2021, 09:19:50 PM »
I have simply suggested that Oswald may have placed the clipboard down when he retrieved his rifle. 

“May have”
“His rifle”

LOL

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2021, 09:19:50 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6513
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #77 on: August 05, 2021, 12:51:50 AM »
----------------
BONUS TIP for
HIGH SCHOOL
DROP-OUTS &
OSWALD ARSE
KISSERS [aka
OAKers]
;D;D ;D
----------------

Mr. BALL. Now, Frankie, that clipboard you found describe it--what was it?
Mr. KAISER. It was made out of paper and tape and a little piece of pasteboard.
Mr. BALL. Who made it?
Mr. KAISER. I did.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2021, 09:19:55 PM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Zeon Mason

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 923
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #78 on: August 05, 2021, 01:16:10 AM »
If an MC rifle with offset scope and bolt handle sticking out was wedged down a 1”gap between 2 parallel rows of cardboard boxes , then should not there have been some scoring, dents, etc on the sides of those boxes?

What about that loose sling with the 2” wide pad? Does that require more than a “few seconds” to be able to get that sling pad into the 1”gap before the rifle is then pushed into the gap on top of it?


JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #78 on: August 05, 2021, 01:16:10 AM »


Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5047
Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2021, 03:02:02 AM »
And you have so far provided no evidence said clipboard belonged to Oswald.

I didn't say it was planted, you fail again.

Lack of "probative vaule" (been reading much Bugliosi lateley?) does not necessarily mean it's planted, you fail again.

WTF are you talking about?

Be specific.

I don't necessarily answer loaded questions, what question do you need answered?

WCR is not a primary source and thus entirely irrelevant, you fail again.

Is there a full moon or something?  This is really nuts.  Kaiser worked in the TSBD.  He made the clipboard.  His name is on it.  He knew Oswald was using it.  It was found on the 6th floor.  What doubt is there about this?  The one person in a position to know confirms that Oswald was using this clipboard.  He confirms that it was on the 6th floor.  End of story.