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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #112 on: January 07, 2021, 01:45:15 AM »
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'Likewise, the WC cult claims that their "Oswald did it" conclusion is correct but are unable to provide evidence beyond allegations.'

Markham already did that
No she lied. Or was coached. Brennan lied. McDonald lied. Calloway lied. Scoggins lied. On and on and on...they all lied.

The WC was a lie. Warren lied. Redlich lied. Ford lied. The HSCA was a lie. Blakey lied. All of the people in it lied. CBS investigated the murder; they lied. ABC lied. The Washington Post lied. Robert Caro lied about LBJ. Historians, reporters, investigative journalists, news organizations, Congress, the Senate, presidents, law school deans, veterans of wars, waitresses, steam fitters, cab drivers, shoe salesmen....all lied. They framed Oswald.

This is exactly how Trump thinks, isn't it? The conspiracists worldview. Frightening to think that someone with this type of thinking is the President. But here we are. Not for long though.
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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #112 on: January 07, 2021, 01:45:15 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #113 on: January 07, 2021, 07:54:33 PM »
And here, like the Trump defenders, one wishes away the evidence. Close your eyes, cover your ears and deny.

...and then what follows is not evidence.

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Oswald talked to no one around the building, no co-workers, about what happened. All said they never saw him after lunch. Not a one said he stopped to talk to them.

Is this supposed to be evidence of murder?  Nobody saw Charles Givens after lunch either. 

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There is no evidence he talked to anyone on the bus about the shooting. There is no evidence he talked to Whatley, the bus cab driver, about what happened just outside the building where he worked. There is no evidence he talked to Roberts when he went to his rooming house.

So a person who was never talkative with anybody is suddenly a murderer if he doesn't turn into a chatterbox after a murder happens.  No wonder you're so easily persuaded.

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But like the Trump supporters who deny he's a liar a fraud, you'll deny all of this. Trump cultists are like Oswald cultists. Their guy can't do anything wrong at all.

Of course he could do something wrong.  That doesn't demonstrate that he did.  Is this really your argument for guilt?  You are exactly like the Trump cultists:  votes could have been switched, therefore they were switched.  That's all the "evidence" they need too...

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Cults of personalities are wrong and dangerous. But a cult of defenders for Trump? And one for the pathetic Oswald? Really, this is what you spend your life doing online?

So Oswald was guilty because you think he was "pathetic".  Really?

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Trump supporters demanded an investigation; they got one, multiple ones. Oswald supporters wanted an investigation; they got one, multiple ones. In both cases the supporters reject the findings. Everyone lied or is a liar. They're all corrupt. They all are in on it.

Nice strawman.  Who said "Everyone lied or is a liar. They're all corrupt. They all are in on it."?  Exactly nobody.  Is that all you got?

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They simply cannot accept facts. End of story.

You don't know what constitutes a fact.  End of story.
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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #114 on: January 07, 2021, 07:56:29 PM »
:'(

AW, poor misunderstood Johnny; and on two fronts no less.

What you think you know and understand is soaked in biased opinion
Where did I say I could prove anything here
I believe I saw you kneeling at the killer's grave
That's all anybody needs to know about Oswald-lovers

Says the guy who can do nothing to prove that someone is "the killer" but declares him to be one anyway.  I can call you "the child molester" too.  That doesn't make it a fact.

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #115 on: January 07, 2021, 07:59:11 PM »
'Likewise, the WC cult claims that their "Oswald did it" conclusion is correct but are unable to provide evidence beyond allegations.'

Markham already did that

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I said "beyond allegations".  Besides:

Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You did not? Did you see anybody--I have asked you that question before did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. From their face, no.
Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men.
Mr. BALL. No one of the four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No one of them.
Mr. BALL. No one of all four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there a number two man in there?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #116 on: January 07, 2021, 08:13:52 PM »
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I said "beyond allegations".  Besides:

Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You did not? Did you see anybody--I have asked you that question before did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. From their face, no.
Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men.
Mr. BALL. No one of the four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No one of them.
Mr. BALL. No one of all four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there a number two man in there?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.

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Therefore she meant before 11/22/63

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #117 on: January 07, 2021, 08:32:38 PM »
Says the guy who can do nothing to prove that someone is "the killer" but declares him to be one anyway.  I can call you "the child molester" too.  That doesn't make it a fact.

I can call you "the child molester" too

You can? You already did.
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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #118 on: January 07, 2021, 08:49:18 PM »
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Therefore she meant before 11/22/63

as if you know what she meant.

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #119 on: January 07, 2021, 08:49:41 PM »