Oswald, Depository To Rooming House

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2021, 12:49:08 AM »

Based on McWatters' statement of where it was that Oswald boarded the bus (we know Oswald boarded that bus because he had McWatters' specific bus transfer and McWatters said he issued that transfer to only one woman and only one man), Oswald walked about seven blocks east (into the downtown area) after he left the Depository within three minutes of the shooting.

"So I gave her a transfer and opened the door and she was going out the gentleman I had picked up about two blocks (back) asked for a transfer and got off at the same place in the middle of the block where the lady did.  It was the intersection near Lamar Street, it was near Poydras and Lamar Street." -- Cecil McWatters




Before a CT claims the Bus Transfer was pristine, it wasn't, it's been obviously folded and creased.



Mr. BALL - Did your punch mark have a distinctive mark?
Mr. McWATTERS - It had a distinctive mark and it is registered, in other words, all the drivers, every driver has a different punch mark.
Mr. BALL - What makes it different?
Mr. McWATTERS - Well, it is, it would be, the symbol of it or angle, in other words, every one; it is different, in other words.
Mr. BALL - You have a punch there?
Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir; I have the punch right here.
Mr. BALL - Is that the punch that you used?
Mr. McWATTERS - That is the punch I used.
Mr. BALL - Will you punch a piece of paper and show us?
Mr. McWATTERS - In other words, that is the type of punch that this one makes right here, in other words.
Mr. BALL - That is a different type of punch than any other driver has?
Mr. McWATTERS - Any driver, in other words.
Mr. BALL - On any bus in Dallas?
Mr. McWATTERS - In other words, the superintendent has a list, in other words, it would be just like this and every man has a punch and he has his name, and everything. In other words, if anyone calls in about a transfer or anything, I mean brings one in he can look right down the list by the punch mark and tell whose punch it is, and who it is registered to.
Mr. BALL - Now, the sample of your punch there has been on a piece of paper and we would like to have it marked as 372 at this time.
(The paper referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 372 and received in evidence.)




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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2021, 12:57:14 AM »


"I had the television on listening to...trying to find out what happened to President Kennedy when he came in, it must have been after 1 o'clock because..." - Earlene Roberts

JohnM

So you agree? Great stuff....

You either agree with Roberts or you call her unreliable again. Which is it going to be?

Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2021, 01:10:05 AM »
So you agree? Great stuff....

You either agree with Roberts or you call her unreliable again. Which is it going to be?

Huh? Roberts says "it must have been....because", she guessed then qualified her guess, those late nights in Spain with your beach view and Learjet lifestyle sure has made you sloppy.



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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2021, 01:11:45 AM »
Huh? Roberts says "it must have been....because", she guessed then qualified her guess, those late nights in Spain with your beach view and Learjet lifestyle sure has made you sloppy.



JohnM

Ok, so you call her unreliable. Got it! 

And btw, I don't have a beach view here, just look at my avatar. Not sure where you got that from....

Nor do I have a Learjet lifestyle. Don't even know what that means. My company has a jet on lease, yes, but to call it a lifestyle is a bit silly... Btw we used it when we flew down under... you know, where we were supposed to meet but you never showed up.
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Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2021, 01:22:23 AM »
Ok, so you call her unreliable. Got it! 

And btw, I don't have a beach view here, just look at my avatar. Not sure where you got that from....

Nor do I have a Learjet lifestyle. Don't even know what that means. My company has a jet on lease, yes, but to call it a lifestyle is a bit silly... Btw we used it when we flew down under... you know, where we were supposed to meet but you never showed up.



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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2021, 01:34:52 AM »
Thank you for playing, Johnny

Better luck next time

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Re: Oswald, Depository To Rooming House
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2021, 05:34:27 AM »
Bill: Do you know where Oswald's "usual" bus stop was located when he left work or arrived by bus each morning? I read (I believe in Bugliosi) that it was on Houston Street just around the corner from the TSBD?

Also: Were there any bus stops between the route he took from the TSBD to the bus he boarded? In other words, couldn't he have walked several blocks to a bus stop and simply waited for one? No need to keep walking and then pound on the door to get onto one.

Steve, there was a bus stop at Houston and Elm on the northeast corner of that intersection.  To the best of my recollection, the busses that stopped at that corner (heading west on Elm through town towards Dealey Plaza) would continue straight onto Elm and go underneath the triple underpass.

However, the route that the bus that McWatters was driving that day (the bus boarded by Oswald after the assassination) had a stop at Elm and Record (one small block east of the other busses that stopped at Elm and Houston that I described above).  Instead of continuing straight on Elm and going underneath the triple underpass like the busses I describe above, the busses that stopped at Elm and Record would then continue west on Elm for a block and turn left onto Houston and take the Houston Street viaduct over to Oak Cliff.

Some of the busses, after crossing the viaduct into Oak Cliff, would then head south on Marsalis and other busses would stay on Zang (immediately after crossing the viaduct) to Beckley.

Long story short; after work, Oswald could leave the Depository building, walk one full block east on Elm to the intersection of Elm and Record.  At that bus stop (Elm and Record) Oswald would wait for the Beckley line (as opposed to the Marsalis line) to take him to the rooming house.

I hope this helps.