Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #245 on: May 02, 2021, 05:26:34 PM »
I didn't realize Truth Be Told was such a well-established group. I had seen the below video some time back but didn't realize it was the Truth Be Told group. Who are the people in the video? Are they significant in the JFK research community? One is Bill Brown a Tippit expert and Fred Litwin who has written two books on the case. Who are the other people, have they done anything significant in the JFK case?

Hi Gerry.  All of those in the video are members of the JFK Truth Be Told Facebook group.  We all met up in Dallas in March of 2020, just before the country shut down.  The fellow giving the tour is Steve Roe, a real researcher who is very knowledgeable.  In fact, Steve Roe and Chris Simondet recently found, through really great research and diligence, the magazine and issue which contained the order form that Oswald used to order the revolver.  This information was unknown until last year.

Here is Dale Myers' blog spot post on the discovery:

http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2020/06/solving-mystery-of-oswalds-seaport.html


And here is a walking tour we did in Oak Cliff discussing the Tippit case (I believe I posted this video in this forum last year).  Steve Roe and Fred Litwin are seen in this Tippit tour as well.  Another guy, Frank Badalson (wearing the burgundy jacket) currently owns the Ruth Paine station wagon which she gave driving lessons to Lee Oswald in...

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #246 on: May 02, 2021, 05:33:09 PM »
How do you picture a "debate" going between myself and Martin/Roger?

I can see it now...

Bill:  "The shells found at the Tippit scene were linked, through ballistics, to Oswald's revolver to the exclusion of every other weapon in the world."

Then, as I begin to explain how ballistic testing works, Martin/Roger chimes in with this gem....

Martin/Roger:  "Oswald's revolver  LOL"

Already laying the groundwork for an excuse to not debate me?  :D

Now, why doesn't that come as a surprise to me.....

Btw, I fully understand why you would prefer to just be able to simply claim it was Oswald's revolver rather than prove it.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #247 on: May 02, 2021, 06:13:35 PM »
5. He falsely claims Markham “left her apartment about 1:06-1:07”—she said she left at 1:00. (3 H 306)

I corrected myself literally ten seconds later.  This doesn't belong on the list.

Mrs. MARKHAM. At one.
    Mr. BALL. One o'clock?
    Mrs. MARKHAM. I believe it was a little after 1.
   
1:06-1:07 qualifies as 'a little after 1' in my books
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #248 on: May 02, 2021, 06:16:18 PM »
Mrs. MARKHAM. At one.
    Mr. BALL. One o'clock?
    Mrs. MARKHAM. I believe it was a little after 1.
   
1:06-1:07 qualifies as 'a little after 1' in my books

A 2 minute walk down one block would get her at 10th/Patton at 1:09 at the latest.
Do you think she stood and waited there for 5 minutes or more to watch Tippit being killed?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #249 on: May 02, 2021, 07:27:12 PM »
How do you picture a "debate" going between myself and Martin/Roger?

I can see it now...

Bill:  "The shells found at the Tippit scene were linked, through ballistics, to Oswald's revolver to the exclusion of every other weapon in the world."

Then, as I begin to explain how ballistic testing works, Martin/Roger chimes in with this gem....

Martin/Roger:  "Oswald's revolver  LOL"

LOL doesn't mean what you think it means. In CTWonderland, it's a code/mantra/self-hug for 'Love Only Lee'.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #250 on: May 03, 2021, 01:38:32 AM »
Let's hear from Earlene Roberts herself.

At 5.03 minutes in this timeline special Roberts tells us Oswald entered the rooming house after 1 PM


She testified he was in his room for about 3 to 4 minutes, or as Bill Brown misrepresents it "just long enough to grab a jacket".

If true, this means Oswald did not leave the rooming house until 1:04 or 1:05 PM, after which Roberts saw him standing at the busstop.

The fastest walk, short of actually running, from the rooming house to 10th/Patton takes roughly 12 minutes.

If Oswald waited at the busstop for just 1 minute, he would get to 10th/Patton no earlier than 1:16 at which time Tippit was already declared DOA (at 1:15) at the hospital.

Even if Helen Markham left her home at 1:06, it would have taken her no more than 2 minutes to walk one block from 9th street to the intersection of 10th/Patton. If Tippit was killed at 1:14, as Dale Myers suggests, or at 1:16 as the WC believed, are we to believe that Markham arrived at 10th/Patton at 1:09 or 1:10 and waited for at least 5 minutes to watch Tippit being killed?

How in the world, would Oswald be able to kill Tippit any time later as 1:10 (when Markham arrived at the intersection) if he was still at the rooming house at 1:04?

Let me guess;

Roberts was wrong in her time estimate, Oswald really came in before the 1 PM news started
Markham was wrong in her time estimate, she actually left her house to catch her regular bus much later than she said
Bowley's watch was wrong (which means he failed to pick up his daughter from school at the right time)
All the hospital clocks were wrong
DPD officer Davenport watch must also have been wrong as he confirmed the DOA at 1:15 twice in official documents.
Being declared DOA at the hospital is not the same as time of death
And Oswald could have been transported to 10th/Patton in a car for no known reason and by a person who never came forward.

Now what are the chances of all this coincidences happening in one case at the same time?
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #251 on: May 03, 2021, 02:00:47 AM »
How do you picture a "debate" going between myself and Martin/Roger?

I can see it now...

Bill:  "The shells found at the Tippit scene were linked, through ballistics, to Oswald's revolver to the exclusion of every other weapon in the world."

Then, as I begin to explain how ballistic testing works, Martin/Roger chimes in with this gem....

Martin/Roger:  "Oswald's revolver  LOL"

Martin/Roger will never debate you.  These jokers have some dim realization that their nonsense doesn't cut it outside the fringe elements.  That is why they never take their "evidence" of a conspiracy to the NY Times or other media outlet but spend every waking hour on Internet forums proclaiming they have proven Oswald was framed for the assassination of the US President.  It is both sad and amusing.  Particularly the loons that take themselves so seriously.