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« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2021, 08:46:55 PM »
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Brief Recap:

Did the wrongly-accused board Mr. McWatters' bus? ----->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.



Once again, Mr. McWatters for clarity-sake ---->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.


Unlike, Mr. Whaley, the cab driver who has a penchant for "just guessing" up "evidence", Are you certain, Mr. McWatters ---->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.


Now, moving along,  Mr. Mytton has been extended an opportunity to produce authentic evidence that the wrongly-accused, in his own words, not words put into his mouth amid a hastily contrived script to Frame him after he drew his last breath (again, in his own words) anything about climbing into a cab...

Safe & wonderful weekend wishes everyone...

*self-reminder: make an effort to contact Rita Jo's family members to determine if they wish to share anything Mr. Mentesana may have shared about his home video footage taken on the afternoon of 11/22/63.
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« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2021, 08:55:41 PM »
There's No audio & video recordings of those multiple interrogations...there's a reason for that.

The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

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« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2021, 10:26:20 PM »
There's No audio & video recordings of those multiple interrogations...there's a reason for that.

The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

Mr. BALL. Did you have any tape recorder?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I don't have a tape recorder. We need one, if we had one at this time we could have handled these conversations far better.
Mr. BALL. The Dallas Police Department doesn't have one?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I have requested one several times but so far they haven't gotten me one.
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« Reply #91 on: July 24, 2021, 12:58:12 AM »
Wrong. Again, Mr. Mytton,

unless you can actually produce irrefutable proof that the wrongly-accused said this or that, please be advised that critical-thinkers know the difference between what someone actually says and what a hastily contrived script said he said.

In fairness to you though, go ahead sir enlighten those of us reading along where the wrongly-accused said in his own words that he was anywhere near a bus or cab, let alone boarding or climbing into one.

You cannot do it, Can you, Mr. Mytton? There's a reason for that.

Moreover, IF there was ever any authentic evidence in this Frame up, there would have been a legitimate audio & video recording of the proceedings of those multiple interrogations. The reason why this Frame up is void of audio and video recording is because the wrongly-accused was telling the Truth (standing outside upon shots echoing in Dealey Plaza; being seen on the first floor by a small storage room by more than a few TSBD employees...immediately after a duly elected representative of the People was cowardly ambushed; then came to the aid of Inspector Sawyer; then stepped out in the Autumn crisp air via the front-door-entrance after taking a few seconds to show a news reporter where he may find a telephone; and, upon spotting his supervisor, Mr. Shelley, walked toward his position on lower Elm Street; and, stood there with him for, quote, 5-10 minutes, unquote.

Anything else is a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure about a phantom bus boarding to be involved in the events at 10th & Patton (please excuse the eye-roll).

Now, once again, in fairness to you, go ahead and provide the wrongly-accused's authentic voice saying anything about a bus or cab ride...

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Moreover, IF there was ever any authentic evidence in this Frame up, there would have been a legitimate audio & video recording of the proceedings of those multiple interrogations.

All the interrogators who according to you could make up anything they wanted, claimed Oswald said the backyard photos were faked, he never owned a rifle, never had a long package, never killed Kennedy, never killed Tippit, and even after he was shot they asked Oswald if he did anything wrong and these fine upstanding policemen never claimed Oswald admitted anything. That's some incompetent frame up you got there Alan.

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Anything else is a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure about a phantom bus boarding to be involved in the events at 10th & Patton (please excuse the eye-roll).

Here we go again, with the rinse wash repeat of your outrageously non supported theory of a "hastily contrived script" but what you fail to explain is how a two block 5 minute bus journey gets Oswald any closer to the Tippit crime scene which was miles away, what a bizarre theory?
Even if you want to ignore the plethora of eyewitnesses at the Tippit crime scene, we know that Oswald was at the rooming house about 1PM and was captured at the Texas Theatre less than an hour later so we know beyond all doubt that Oswald was in the vicinity and what a coincidence that the Tippit crime scene was located between the two confirmable Oswald locations.
Oswald was at the Depository at the time of the assassination and was close to the Tippit crime scene when arrested, how many other people who weren't directed to the Tippit crime scene in the aftermath, were at or that close to the two murder scenes, that boy Oswald was certainly unlucky to be following around in the footsteps of two murderers.

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« Reply #92 on: July 24, 2021, 02:20:33 AM »
Brief Recap:

Did the wrongly-accused board Mr. McWatters' bus? ----->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.



Once again, Mr. McWatters for clarity-sake ---->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.


Unlike, Mr. Whaley, the cab driver who has a penchant for "just guessing" up "evidence", Are you certain, Mr. McWatters ---->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.


Now, moving along,  Mr. Mytton has been extended an opportunity to produce authentic evidence that the wrongly-accused, in his own words, not words put into his mouth amid a hastily contrived script to Frame him after he drew his last breath (again, in his own words) anything about climbing into a cab...


This is the best you got? Why should any bus driver have a photographic memory and remember every passenger that boards their bus, how absurd and don't forget that "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
Anyway even if you don't want to acknowledge the interrogations we have the non pristine bus transfer which could only be given by McWatter's and we have Bledsoe who on Saturday said Oswald was on a bus that even Police Chief Curry contradicted in his press conference, so we have two totally independent civilian pieces of evidence that is 100% corroborated and all you got is nothing.

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Now, moving along,  Mr. Mytton has been extended an opportunity to produce authentic evidence that the wrongly-accused, in his own words, not words put into his mouth amid a hastily contrived script to Frame him after he drew his last breath (again, in his own words) anything about climbing into a cab...

It's like I'm discussing this evidence with a child, you keep repeating the same mantra again and again as if that will change history but sorry your vague explanation of a "hastily contrived script" event which was miles away from Tippit goes nowhere and proves nothing.

JohnM

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« Reply #93 on: July 24, 2021, 03:13:12 AM »
Henry Ford: And colour so long as it's black
Alan Ford: Any assassin so long as it's not Oswald

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« Reply #94 on: July 28, 2021, 08:23:55 PM »
Mr. BALL. Did you have any tape recorder?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I don't have a tape recorder. We need one, if we had one at this time we could have handled these conversations far better.
Mr. BALL. The Dallas Police Department doesn't have one?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I have requested one several times but so far they haven't gotten me one.

Read your script Captain Fritz like a parrot...it's amazing what some people will do & say for thirty pieces of silver.

A genuine investigation, considering the magnitude of the unfolding worldwide event, would have quite easily secured means to a tape-recorder via another locality. or even Texas state resources/equipment, let alone via the Feds who were actively involved in the multiple interrogations w/the wrongly-accused.

Again, there's no audio & video recording of those multiple-interrogations. There's a reason for that. The wrongly-accused was simply telling the Truth, thus no audio & video recording could be shared with the general public/world.




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« Reply #95 on: July 28, 2021, 08:37:13 PM »
Mr. Mytton,

Still having a difficult time producing any actual, credible evidence bearing the wrongly-accused's own voice describing that phantom bus ride & cab ride eh?

Quite easy to put words into someone's mouth after they draw their last breath. C'mon, Mr. Mytton, give those of us reading along some authentic evidence, in the wrongly-accused's own voice describing the actions he took amid officialdom's hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure. Go ahead, please try again...

cannot do it, can you?

If you find this challenge way too MUCH for you, just remember one thing: There's a reason for that. It's easy to Frame an innocent party when others say he said this, or he said that...he did this or he did that...and for good measure simply void any audio & video recording to the contrary.

The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.
 
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