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[John Mytton]

Brief recap:

The bus-transfer "evidence' is a manufactured prop, mired in the stench of horse manure amid a hastily contrived script to Frame an innocent party.

Mr. McWatters tells us all we need to know about that manufactured & subsequently planted "evidence" ---->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.

OMG, a bus driver who transports hundreds of people couldn't positively identify a random passenger who was only on his bus for a matter of minutes and you find that evidence of Oswald's innocence, you can't be serious? But didn't McWatter's have access to the tickets and the unique hole punch which was the only way for Oswald's ticket to be punched, so does that make McWatter's part of the conspiracy and if so why wouldn't he identify the patsy, who according to you guys was impossible to miss?
Also when are you finally going to explain why "they" invented a 2 block bus journey?

And again if you missed it, here's Oswald's Bus transfer which shows multiple folds, and just to rub it in here's a close up of Oswald's pristine shirt pockets showing, oops!







Btw why do you people keep quoting Warren Commissions testimony, then on the other hand tell us that whatever testimony doesn't support conspiracy is because the FBI altered it?

JohnM

[Mark A. Oblazney]

OMG, a bus driver who transports hundreds of people couldn't positively identify a random passenger who was only on his bus for a matter of minutes and you find that evidence of Oswald's innocence, you can't be serious? But didn't McWatter's have access to the tickets and the unique hole punch which was the only way for Oswald's ticket to be punched, so does that make McWatter's part of the conspiracy and if so why wouldn't he identify the patsy, who according to you guys was impossible to miss?
Also when are you finally going to explain why "they" invented a 2 block bus journey?

And again if you missed it, here's Oswald's Bus transfer which shows multiple folds, and just to rub it in here's a close up of Oswald's pristine shirt pockets showing, oops!







Btw why do you people keep quoting Warren Commissions testimony, then on the other hand tell us that whatever testimony doesn't support conspiracy is because the FBI altered it?

JohnM

Having it both ways, kind of.....  lawyers do this all the time, have you noticed?

[Richard Smith]

Also when are you finally going to explain why "they" invented a 2 block bus journey?



JohnM

I've been asking this for a long time.  Imagine the complexity and risk of faking Oswald's presence on this bus.  And for what purpose to advance the conspiracy?  It's not clear.  CTers have suggested this entire elaborate hoax is designed to prove that Oswald had the same shirt on during the assassination to link him to the fibers on the rifle.  But without missing a beat they note that the fibers found are merely consistent with those of his shirt.  And there would be nothing to preclude those fibers - assuming they came from Oswald's shirt - from having got on his rifle on a prior occasion.  So the shirt doesn't move the ball much in that regard to link him to the rifle on that particular day.  And it was unnecessary to do so given that there was sufficient evidence without the fibers to link Oswald to the rifle like the serial number and his prints etc.  So the staging a fake bus ride was completely unnecessary for that purpose.   The only other explanation that I've ever heard is that this covered up Oswald getting a ride to his boarding house with some conspirator.  But that makes no sense either as there is a rock solid cab ride story which Oswald himself confirmed.  As a result, there was no apparent reason for any conspirator to stage a fake bus ride that includes coercing random bus passengers to confirm and/or at least not deny Oswald's presence on the bus along with ensuring that no one saw Oswald elsewhere at that same time. 

[Bill Chapman]

But that makes no sense either as there is a rock solid cab ride story which Oswald himself confirmed.

Rock solid as in Von Pein rock solid?

Oswald wearing two jackets being dropped off in the wrong block entering rooming house in shirtsleeves - - ROFL

Oh, and Whaley picked wrong dude at the lineup (Chapman has the details) - - LOL

Chapman got his details from Whaley who stated that the guy who turned out to be Oswald was the guy he hauled.

[Ray Mitcham]

Chapman got his details from Whaley who stated that the guy who turned out to be Oswald was the guy he hauled.

The same Whaley who said he saw Oswald's photo on t.v. and also said OSWALD was wearing a blue denim trousers and jacket.
And the guy he said you couldn't miss him in the line up


"At that time he had on a pair of black pants and white T-shirt, that is all he had on. But you could have picked him out without identifying him by just listening to him because he was bawling out the policeman, telling them it wasn't right to put him in line with these teenagers and all of that and they asked me which one and I told them. It was him all right, the same man."


The words "Set up" come to mind

[Bill Chapman]

Sure, let's count along with Chapman:

Uh oh, wrong bloke -- LOL

Stopped 'rolfing' I see.
Change of subject duly noted.
Giving up already, Herr Beck?

Right bloke hauled by Whaley (hauled the guy who turned out to be Oswald, said he)

[Bill Chapman]

But the #2 guy picked by Whaley turned out not to be Oswald (as we know him).

You were doing so well counting and now you talk nonsense.

What happened?

What happened?
LOL. Whaley testified that he hauled Lee Harvey Oswald is what happened.

[John Mytton]

But the #2 guy picked by Whaley turned out not to be Oswald (as we know him).

You were doing so well counting and now you talk nonsense.

What happened?

Are you still peddling this BS? Whaley specifically picked out Oswald and all this crying that he didn't specifically remember the position in line is just ridiculous and even the most desperate defence lawyer wouldn't stoop to such an easily refuted untruth but go ahead and humiliate yourself because at least you are good at that.

Mr. BALL. Did Whaley say anything to you personally?
Mr. LEAVELLE. To me personally?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. LEAVELLE. Well, of course, I asked him if he---if the man that he remembered or saw there, whatever he was identifying him for there was up there and he said "Yes, the man in the T-shirt." Whether he was doing all the talking or not wouldn't make any difference, he still knew him.



JohnM