Et tu, Bonnie?

[Alan Ford]

Dougherty was up on 6 and he never saw anything.

Correction: he said he never saw anything. The question is: do you believe him? I ask because you think he's part of the conspiracy, so it's odd that you would now be citing him as a reliable witness

The same with Givens.

Lol

Williams was up there long enough to eat his sandwich, his bag of Fritos and drink his pop. It seems clear from various WC testimonies he was up on 6 for quite some time before coming down to join Jarman and Norman.

Actually it's far from clear. Let's start with Mr Rowland's testimony. Was Mr Williams middle-aged? Was he wearing a bright plaid shirt? Was he bald or as good as?

Nobody saw this team arrive or leave.

Correction: nobody said they saw this team arrive (though Ms Hall did see one of them there looking for something amongst boxes).

And of course Officer Baker encountered one of them walking away from the stairway several floors up the building just after the shooting.

It's almost as if there's no support for such a suggestion.

Lol, you just don't like my solution because you're gunning for Mr Williams (along with-------------when it suits your argument--------------Mr Dougherty)

[Bill Chapman]

Go figure.

Okay.

Firearm Factoids
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/factoid4.htm

EXCERPT:

1) Individuals don't always have a sufficient quantity of perspiration and/or contaminates on their hands to be deposited
2) When someone touches something, they may handle it in a manner which causes the prints to smear
3) The surface may not be suitable for retaining the minute traces of moisture in a form representative of the ridge detail
4) The environment may cause the latent print to deteriorate.

The most important fact dealing with the lack of fingerprints is that it neither suggests, implies, or establishes that any person did or did not touch the item of evidence. Items which have been witnessed to have been handled and laboratory experimentation repeatedly reiterate this premise.

Alan McRoberts
Los Angeles Sheriff's Department
Scientific Services Bureau
Identification Section

[Martin Weidmann]

Okay.

Firearm Factoids
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/factoid4.htm

EXCERPT:

1) Individuals don't always have a sufficient quantity of perspiration and/or contaminates on their hands to be deposited
2) When someone touches something, they may handle it in a manner which causes the prints to smear
3) The surface may not be suitable for retaining the minute traces of moisture in a form representative of the ridge detail
4) The environment may cause the latent print to deteriorate.

The most important fact dealing with the lack of fingerprints is that it neither suggests, implies, or establishes that any person did or did not touch the item of evidence. Items which have been witnessed to have been handled and laboratory experimentation repeatedly reiterate this premise.

Alan McRoberts
Los Angeles Sheriff's Department
Scientific Services Bureau
Identification Section

Wow, and what is this supposed to tell us?

[Alan Ford]

Okay.

Firearm Factoids
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/factoid4.htm

EXCERPT:

1) Individuals don't always have a sufficient quantity of perspiration and/or contaminates on their hands to be deposited
2) When someone touches something, they may handle it in a manner which causes the prints to smear
3) The surface may not be suitable for retaining the minute traces of moisture in a form representative of the ridge detail
4) The environment may cause the latent print to deteriorate.

The most important fact dealing with the lack of fingerprints is that it neither suggests, implies, or establishes that any person did or did not touch the item of evidence. Items which have been witnessed to have been handled and laboratory experimentation repeatedly reiterate this premise.

Alan McRoberts
Los Angeles Sheriff's Department
Scientific Services Bureau
Identification Section

Great! Let's apply this to the two curtain rods tested for Mr Oswald's prints eight days before two curtain rods were extracted on-the-record from Ms Paine's garage 

[Bill Chapman]

Pulp Fiction

Willis wipes out Travolta and fingerprints. Easy-peasy.

[Bill Chapman]

Great! Let's apply this to the two curtain rods tested for Mr Oswald's prints eight days before two curtain rods were extracted on-the-record from Ms Paine's garage 

Let's not.

[Martin Weidmann]

Pulp Fiction

Willis wipes out Travolta and fingerprints

What? Things like that can happen?

Now, who would have wiped out Oswald's prints on all those boxes? Any idea?

[Richard Smith]

You really are not getting this, are you. They only found 2 prints linked to Oswald because they didn't bother to identify the others after finding they did not belong to Oswald. That's basically what Latona, Mandella and Wittmus told the WC in their testimony and affidavit!

If CE 3131 is supposed to have any value, then why did it take them 10 months to come up with these "findings" - that contradicts what Latona said in his testimony - only days before the WC report was released?

Btw, to build the snipers nest a large number of boxes needed to be moved. If Oswald did that all by himself, why did they find no prints belonging to him on any of the other boxes? Did all those boxes magically move themselves?

It's the same as with the paper bag that Oswald is supposed to have constructed. In either case, you would expect his prints to be all over the place, but they are not. Go figure.

It doesn't matter how long it took to match the prints.  The fact remains that 24 of the 25 identifiable prints (exclusive of Oswald's prints) found on the boxes were matched to the two investigators.  None of these identifiable prints matched anyone from the TSBD other than Oswald.  That is confirmed in the FBI report (Commission Exhibit 3131).  These are simply facts reported by the FBI.  Because you don't like them doesn't change that.  It is simply a fact that Oswald's prints on the SN boxes are the only ones linked to any TSBD employee.  Thus, dismissing the evidentiary value of his prints being found on these boxes because "he worked there" is entirely baseless.  No one else who worked at the TSBD left prints on these boxes. Only Oswald.  So much bad luck.