Et tu, Bonnie?

[Bill Chapman]

Dan, some time back I researched the chicken lunch issue. This was independent of Don Thomas. You would have noticed the snide remarks about my research from Richard the regurgitator and Bill the comic relief in this thread. The following officers described remnants on the lunch in the SN prior to the arrival of Fritz, Mooney, McCurley, Boone, Faulkner, Craig, Hill, Brewer, Haywood and Weatherford.

Jim Ewell, a news reporter who had travelled to the TSBD with Jerry Hill, later related in No More Silence that Hill held up the chicken bone and hollered to those below that the fried chicken was what the assassin had been eating.

Richard and Bill won’t engage in discussion of the evidence because they know where it leads.

I

know

where

it

leads:

Down,

down,

down,

and

down

again,

through

your

very

own

personal

rabbit

hole

and,

finally,

to

your

oh

so

precious

pet

theory.

[Dan O'meara]

Some curious aspects of Bonnie Ray Williams' various statements.

In his affidavit (22nd November) he "radically misremembers" by saying that after breaking for lunch and coming down from the 6th floor, he collects his lunch then returns to the 5th floor with Norman and Jarman. The point of the "misrememberance" is to disguise the fact he had his lunch on the 6th floor.

In his 23rd November FBI statement (the very next day), he concedes he went up to the 6th floor for lunch but only stayed about 3 minutes (he doesn't recall saying this)

In an interview (01/14/64) he states he went down to the 5th around 12:05. Again, he disputes this:
"...they asked me first, they said, "How long did it take you to finish the sandwich?" I said, "Maybe 5 to 10 minutes, maybe 15 minutes."

A pattern is emerging. The more he is questioned the longer he spent on the 6th. This pattern continues during his WC testimony:

Mr. BALL. How long did you stay there?
Mr. WILLIAMS. I was there from--5, 10, maybe 12 minutes.

Then later in the same testimony:

Mr. WILLIAMS. It was after I had left the sixth floor, after I had eaten the chicken sandwich. I finished the chicken sandwich maybe 10 or 15 minutes after 12.

And finally:

Mr. BALL. Approximately what time was it?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Approximately 12:20, maybe.

According to Williams he came down to the 5th floor after 0, 3, 5, 10, 12, 15, 20 minutes.
We know, from the testimonies of Jarman and Norman that it was closer to 25 minutes before BRW came down.
To a sceptic it might appear that, after being caught out in his lie, BRW was trying to minimise the amount of time he spent on the 6th floor.

In contrast, he appears to want to maximise his distance away from the SN when he was having his lunch. He states he had his lunch on a "two-wheeler truck" that was  "between the third and the fourth window". However, his lunch remains were found at the SN, some 30 feet away. It's also curious to note that he is quite clear that after finishing his lunch he puts the bones in the paper sack and dumps it on the floor. However, this is not where they are first discovered. More "misremembering"?

Mr. BALL. Did you eat the chicken?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, I did.

Oh no you didn't!

What's going on with Bonnie Ray?

[Colin Crow]

I

know

where

it

leads:

Down,

down,

down,

and

down

again,

through

your

very

own

personal

rabbit

hole

and,

finally,

to

your

oh

so

precious

pet

theory.

You have nothing to dispute it. Your post says it all.....a waste of space.

[Colin Crow]

I

know

where

it

leads:

Down,

down,

down,

and

down

again,

through

your

very

own

personal

rabbit

hole

and,

finally,

to

your

oh

so

precious

pet

theory.

My pet was adopted by JohnM.....seem to remember him to be a LN proponent.

Quote from: John Mytton on 15 September 2018, 12:46:41
C'mon Colin we have debated this before, correct me if I'm wrong but where this is going is that you believe that Williams actually saw the killer and that's why they all lied, and as I remember I agreed with you and said that Williams must have seen Oswald and then you disagreed that it was Oswald, am I right?

I was not convinced Williams saw Oswald......the only difference.

[Bill Chapman]

You have nothing to dispute it. Your post says it all.....a waste of space.

This is too easy: I give precise directions to where I know all this leads (look down, look way down), and your response arrives in the form of yet another CT 'waste of space' nothingburger.

[Dan O'meara]

My pet was adopted by JohnM.....seem to remember him to be a LN proponent.

Quote from: John Mytton on 15 September 2018, 12:46:41
C'mon Colin we have debated this before, correct me if I'm wrong but where this is going is that you believe that Williams actually saw the killer and that's why they all lied, and as I remember I agreed with you and said that Williams must have seen Oswald and then you disagreed that it was Oswald, am I right?

I was not convinced Williams saw Oswald......the only difference.

Williams must have seen the assassin.
They are in the same space at the same time.
Williams' actions after the assassination are bizarre, to say the least. He knows there is a assassin on the floor above but he is quite prepared to allow Baker to go up there without warning him (in his affidavit he says "officers").
He clearly lies in his affidavit about his actions.
And continues to be evasive about key issues, even in his WC testimony.

It's interesting to note that at the end of his same-day affidavit he states:

"I recognized him [Oswald] just a few minutes ago when the officers brought him in the office."

Before he gives his first statement he knows Oswald is caught so why lie?
As the weeks and months go by he knows that Oswald acted alone and was now dead, so why all the evasion?

[Colin Crow]

Williams must have seen the assassin.
They are in the same space at the same time.
Williams' actions after the assassination are bizarre, to say the least. He knows there is a assassin on the floor above but he is quite prepared to allow Baker to go up there without warning him (in his affidavit he says "officers").
He clearly lies in his affidavit about his actions.
And continues to be evasive about key issues, even in his WC testimony.

It's interesting to note that at the end of his same-day affidavit he states:

"I recognized him [Oswald] just a few minutes ago when the officers brought him in the office."

Before he gives his first statement he knows Oswald is caught so why lie?
As the weeks and months go by he knows that Oswald acted alone and was now dead, so why all the evasion?

Also Oswald was dead inside two days. No threat to Williams by Sunday. No trial either.

Dan, there is much more to this. Both Jarman and Norman lied about Williams movements that day. Only at their appearance before the WC did they change.