Et tu, Bonnie?

[Martin Weidmann]

It isn't, but you characters keep demanding proof nevertheless. Led by you and your attack-dog buddy Mr Neil McKneeley.

you characters keep demanding proof

And you and your ilk keep on failing to provide any. 

[Martin Weidmann]

Jerry Organ would be the one to depict the bag build properly. His presentations are unassailable.

I remember Tony Fratini showing the bag being carried sticking way out front, using the photo of the bag laying flat on the table. WTF is wrong with you people? Make your own damn bag and film the entire build in progress instead of blabbing endlessly about it.

Make your own damn bag and film the entire build in progress instead of blabbing endlessly about it.

Says the guy who only babbles endlessly and never provides any proof for his ramblings. 

[Dan O'meara]

Jerry Organ would be the one to depict the bag build properly. His presentations are unassailable.

I remember Tony Fratini showing the bag being carried sticking way out front, using the photo of the bag laying flat on the table. WTF is wrong with you people? Make your own damn bag and film the entire build in progress instead of blabbing endlessly about it.

It's a piece of paper and some tape Bill.
What is it you're having a problem with?
The bag is clearly designed and constructed to carry an object 27" or less.
It's not a big deal.

[Tom Scully]

1) Rose Cherami. Respectable professionals, policemen and doctors, telling a story of foreknowledge of the assassination, how Oswald and Ruby were tied together and how, through Arcacha Smith, everything is connected to New Orleans, where...

2)...we find footage of Bill Shelley outside the New Orleans Trade Mart as Oswald hands out his flyers. Oswald's soon-to-be supervisor who...

3)...along with Lovelady, Williams, Norman and Dougherty, all lied on either their early statements to the police or their WC testimony. If Oswald did it alone it should be a simple story - just tell the authorities what you were doing at the time of the assassination. Instead, all these men chose to lie and the connection...all had been on the 6th floor that morning.

This is no slam dunk Bill.
And neither is it any of the usual  - alterations of the Z-film and autopsy pics, wholesale manipulation of witnesses, two Oswalds, Prayer Man, teams of assassins etc. etc. etc.

The strength of your position is that you have a coherent, testable narrative concerning the assassination into which many pieces fit together. CTers think it's enough to take each tiny element and try to create as much doubt about it as possible, but it's not enough.
We have to come up with our own narratives that accounts for all the evidence, narratives that can be tested just like the "official" narrative is.

Dan..Dan...Dan... Gary Shaw, et al have polluted your POV.
Example, Rose Cheramie:
https://jfkfacts.org/comment-of-the-week-10/
Tom S.
"J Gary Shaw has never furnished any evidence supporting his 1993 description of the contents of hospital records describing a head wound similar to a bullet wound. All I could present was an image of Marcades's death certificate.."

The reason you "know" what Bill Shelley looked like is because I found and shared a photo of William Hoyt Shelley from his H.S. yearbook and his distinctive features hadn't changed much in nearly 20 years.
More radical than Ralph Stinky (forum "auto-edit" of Ralph's last name) is not who you are, Dan.... I hope!

https://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2017/08/dr-cinque-i-am-avid-reader-re.html


Dan, I found and presented proof Dougherty's occupation before the TSBD was repairing items donated to
Goodwill Industries. Who does Goodwill hire and train?

Upper right, in this image :


 7 April H 373-82) In his testimony, Truly gave Dougherty a ...
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/D%20Disk/Dougherty%20Jack%20Edwin/Item%2002.pdf
FBI, Dougherty was accompanied by his father "who advised his son re- ceived a medical discharge from the U.S. Army andindicatedhis son had considerable difficulty coordinating his mental facilities with his speech." (19 H 622).

[Dan O'meara]

Dan..Dan...Dan... Gary Shaw, et al have polluted your POV.

https://jfkfacts.org/comment-of-the-week-10/
Tom S.
"J Gary Shaw has never furnished any evidence supporting his 1993 description of the contents of hospital records describing a head wound similar to a bullet wound. All I could present was an image of Marcades's death certificate.."

Not sure what you mean Tom.
How is my POV polluted? (I'm not saying I haven't been swayed by certain pieces of research, I'm just interested where you're coming from)

LATER EDIT: From the links you posted:

Rose Cherami's death isn't relevant. It's the reports of Fruge, Weiss and others that she had foreknowledge of the assassination. I assume these still hold water

I don't think it looks like Beckham at all.
As far as I'm concerned it's Shelley - same build, same dress sense, same distinctive features, same hairstyle.
In the footage and stills from outside the New Orleans Trade Mart, Shelley looks more like Shelley than Oswald looks like Oswald!

As for Dougherty...
His alibi, that he is on the 5th floor at the time of the shooting is blown out of the water by Williams, Norman and Jarman.
Minutes before the motorcade arrives Jarman and Norman take the elevator up to the 5th, they make their way from the north-west corner of the building (where the elevators are) to the south-east corner. At no point do they see Dougherty.
Williams comes down from the 6th floor and he too makes his way from the north-west corner to the south-east corner. Again, no Dougherty.
Shortly after the assassination all three men run the length of the building. Again, no Dougherty.
I find it hard to get away from the possibility that Dougherty is on the 6th floor at the time of the assassination.
The less said about his story - going down to see Piper then going back to the 6th floor - the better.

His "emotional problems" make him an ideal candidate for manipulation.

Williams and Givens are grilled endlessly about their time on the 6th floor.
Dougherty, who testified to being on the 6th just before and just after the assassination, is asked one question -

Mr. BALL - Did you see anybody on the sixth floor when you were there, before you went to the fifth floor?

That's it.

[Tom Scully]

Not sure what you mean Tom.
How is my POV polluted? (I'm not saying I haven't been swayed by certain pieces of research, I'm just interested where you're coming from)

Three months ago, the U.S. Capitol was packed with people outraged in reaction to what they thought they "knew". If I'm going to be outraged, it has to be in reaction to what actually happened and not what people intent on pursuing power or profit benefit from my "knowing" regardless of reality.

[Dan O'meara]

Three months ago, the U.S. Capitol was packed with people outraged in reaction to what they thought they "knew". If I'm going to be outraged, it has to be in reaction to what actually happened and not what people intent on pursuing power or profit benefit from my "knowing" regardless of reality.

That is a very cryptic and mysterious response.
As far as the JFK assassination is concerned, I'm trying to genuinely understand what's going on.
JFK died years before I was born and I'm not American. I'm not emotionally invested in this, I don't have an axe to grind or an agenda to promote.

In the short time I've been at this I have noticed one thing - everyone believes they have the answer, that they are right and everyone else is wrong. This, as far as I'm concerned, is the greatest obstacle to resolving this case.
And I do believe it can be resolved.