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Oswald's shot-1 ricochet was at Z113 or Z105.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
The highway marker signs as seen by Oswald from 6th floor.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date January 10, 1964
T.E. MOORE, Deputy District Court Clerk, Records Building, advised that on November 22, 1963, he took his lunch hour to observe the Presidential Motorcade. He was standing at the southeast corner of Elm and Houston and observed the motorcade going by, turning west from Houston to Elm Street. By the time President KENNEDY had reached the Thornton Freeway sign, a shot was fired and Mr. MOORE observed the President slumping forward in the Presidential car. Mr. MOORE heard two more shots fired, however, the President was out of Mr. MOORE's sight at the time the last two were fired. Mr. MOORE noticed some of the bystanders on the north side of Elm Street below the concrete pavillion, rushing away from the street across the grass toward the concrete pavilion. Mr. MOORE stated that at the sound of the first shot, he looked up toward the Texas School Book Depository because the shot sounded like it had come from a high area, however, he did not observe anything noteworthy at the Texas School Book Depository.
He stated that approximately ten minutes later, the Texas School Book Depository was surrounded by police officers.
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on 1-8-64 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 100-10461 By Special Agent GEORGE T. BINNEY Date Dictated 1-9-64
This FBI report is rubbish.
Moore was standing i think on the south east corner, not the south west.
Moore did not say that the first shot was when JFK was near the large Thornton Freeway sign (at Z200 approx)(shot-2 was at Z218), he would have said that it was when JFK was near the small highway marker signs just past the signals (at Z113). Agent Binney made an honest mistake, or more likely it was dishonest, an early shot would magnify the perception that the Secret Service Agents responded much too slowly.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
I found a new witness, HOWARD WHATLEY, who said that shot-1 came just as the limo got straight on Elm St, ie near the signals, ie near my Z113 (ie not at Z160 or Z180 or whatever). Howard posted the following wordage on another forum.
Howard Whatley (3 years ago)(edited).
………………..I was there sir and heard 4 to 6 shots. I was about 25 ft. east of TSBD. You could tell the difference, 1 shot was low kinda muffled, came just as the limo got straight on Elm, i'm sure it missed.
………………. That's right, and the two were different sounds, the first of the two wasn't quite as loud the second, sounded lower in tone but louder. Iv'e killed many deer and hogs, and the sound of a bullet hitting a skull or anything else does not make a sound similar to the actual discharge of a rifle. Sometimes a popping sound is conman.
…………… Right, strictly by chance, i didn't even know he was coming until they told us at the courthouse. Went there to get manage licence. Never spoke much about it. Went back to camp Pendleton Sunday, came back home in jan 1964. My wife and i made a vow not to tell anyone and i kept it until she passed away in 2005. There's a couple things i never heard anyone mention, what i saw and heard some of the witness' have said and some the complete opposite. Will say without any doubt there were more than three shots, and the last came so close together no way did they come from a bolt action rifle.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
Barbara Rowland was standing on the east side of Houston St about 150ft from the TSBD. She said that the first shot was as they turned the corner. Her husband said that the first shot was as they started down Elm St.
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/html/WC_Vol6_0097b.htm
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
At 1:20 Connally says …… "we had just turned the corner, we heard a shot…."
Notice that Connally is confused, he thinks that JFK had been badly wounded by the first shot, but in fact JFK & Connally had been both hit by the magic bullet ie the 2nd shot at Z218.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvGIsu6KGo
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