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Oswald's shot-1 ricochet was at Z113 or Z105.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
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Marjan Rynkiewicz:
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Marjan Rynkiewicz:
Shot-2 was at Z218. The headshot was at Z312, ie 94 Z frames later, ie 5.14 sec later (based on 18.3 fps).
If the gap between shot-1 & shot-2 equaled the gap between shot-2 & Z312 then shot-1 was 94 frames earlier, ie at pseudo Z124 (ie 9 frames before Zapruder's sequence starts at Z133).
If the gap between shot-1 & shot-2 was 50% longer than the following gap then shot-1 was 141 frames earlier, ie at pseudo Z077.
If the gap between shot-1 & shot-2 was 100% longer than the following gap then shot-1 was 188 frames earlier, ie at pseudo Z030.
However, not one member in the history of this forum has acknowledged even one atom of this simple truth.
But many members here reckon that the gapage was BANG........................................... BANG...................BANG.
If u insist on shot-2 being 4 frames later than Z218, ie at Z222, then Z124 becomes Z128, & Z077 becomes Z083, & Z030 becomes Z038.
Holland's estimate for shot-1 was Z105 or Z107 or somesuch, & i agree with Holland.
Z105 is 113 frames before Z218, which is 20.2% larger than the final gap of 94 frames.
Z105 is 117 frames before Z222, which is 25.6% larger than the final gap of 90 frames (if u insist on shot2 being at Z222 instead of my Z218).
So, Holland has copped a lot of flack on this forum for suggesting that shot-1 was as early as Z105.
But, Z105 only needs gap-1 to be 20.2% larger than gap-2 (or 25.6% larger if u insist on shot-2 being at Z222).
If members are happy with their claims that gap-2 was significantly smaller than gap-1 then members should be happy with Holland's Z105.
Hence gap-1 was 6.17 sec, & gap-2 was 5.14 sec, total 10.31 sec.
The silly estimate of say Z169 for shot-1 means that gap-1 is 49 Z frames (& gap-2 is 94 Z frames), which is BANG........ BANG................... BANG. Stupid.
Hence silly gap-1 was 2.68 sec, & gap-2 was 5.14 sec, & the stupid total 7.82 sec.
The above are based on when the shots landed, not when fired, & not when heard.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
Here is a Carcano jacket fragment from a ricochet test off pipe (Holland).
And some photos relating to other ricochet tests by Haag.
The Holland fragment reminds us of the 2 fragments found in the jfklimo (CE567 CE569).
A Technical Investigation Pertaining to the First Shot Fired in the JFK Assassination
Frank S. DeRonja1, MS Engr & Max Holland2
1Forensic Metallurgy Associates, Springfield, VA, USA
2 Journalist & Author, Potomac, MD, USA
https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_44c78e12584949128ebeda1d1a49f9c2.pdf
https://www.acsr.org/post/a-technical-investigation-pertaining-to-the-first-shot-fired-in-the-jfk-assassination
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
The ricochet of Oswald's shot-1 was offa the western side of the western guy rod, near the coupler/clamp.
There is also a female/female joiner on the eastern guy rod near the coupler/clamp.
The western guy rod might have had a similar joiner, in which case the ricochet might have been off that joiner.
A ricochet off the guy rod or joiner would give more fragmentation of the Carcano slug whilst producing a lesser ricochet angle, compared to a ricochet off 2" pipe.
The ricochet of shot-1 needed to have a very small ricochet angle, if the splatter of small lead bits were to hit jfk on the right top back of his head (seen in galea in xray).
In ricochet tests the remnant slug was almost always in one piece, ie as per the hole in the floor of the jfklimo, ie as per the photo of the hole taken during upgrading in Dec 1963 (shown earlier in this thread).
And, the brass jacket can naturally part into 2 pieces, koz the jacket was made in 2 pieces (fused together before receiving the lead).
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