SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2021, 10:16:19 PM »
a possible indicator that he intentionally wanted to get arrested that day.

I don't believe that Lee intended to get arrested, but he definitely wanted publicity...  He wanted the news media to cover his pro Castro activities... He knew that Castros spies would be watching and and take note of his activities.   And that's was his primary motive for staging the " fight" with the anti Castro Cuban exiles .

You may be right, it is a stretch to assume that he intended to get arrested. But the absence of the Hidell Identification card might indicate that he believed that there was a good chance that he might be arrested.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2021, 11:21:59 PM »
You may be right, it is a stretch to assume that he intended to get arrested. But the absence of the Hidell Identification card might indicate that he believed that there was a good chance that he might be arrested.

After Lee was arrested and in the N.O. calaboose, he requested that the FBI be contacted, because he wanted to talk to FBI agent Warren DeBruey's.   Now what kinda commie would want to talk to the FBI???

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2021, 10:02:49 PM »
Thanks Steve, that explains a lot. That he apparently didn’t have the Hidell identification card with him is a possible indicator that he intentionally wanted to get arrested that day.

It's also a possible indicator that no such card existed at the time.  After all, why would he want to have such a card on him on the day of the assassination either?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2021, 10:28:00 PM »
It's also a possible indicator that no such card existed at the time.  After all, why would he want to have such a card on him on the day of the assassination either?

The so called "selective service" card with the name Alek James Hidell is no selective service card....and it isn't even close to being a good copy of a genuine draft card.    Lee would have known that it was a federal crime to create a forgery or alter a real draft card.   Therefore when he created the Hidell card he was very careful that the card didn't even resemble a real draft card.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2021, 08:20:16 PM »
In which the absurd claim is made once again that the evidence of Oswald's guilt is so overwhelming that we must conclude he is innocent.  Why would Oswald retain his Hidell ID that links him to the rifle?  LOL.  Maybe he was an idiot.  Lots of criminals do dumb things that result in their arrest and conviction.  Should they all be released because the evidence of their guilt is clear?  HA HA HA.  That's Alice-in-Wonderland logic.  Maybe Oswald had no idea what type of records Klein's retained of his purchase?  And, therefore, he had no good reason to get rid of a fake ID that might do him some good on the run.  The card is also not the only means to link him to this alias.  He listed Hidell on the form for his New Orleans PO Box.  So as a evidentiary matter, even if Oswald gets rid of the Hidell SS card, he is still linked to the alias used to purchase the rifle.  The rifle that was mailed to his PO Box and ends up at his place of employment with his prints on that rifle.  It's a slam dunk of guilt.  Even with the invention of the contrarian time machine, it would be difficult to figure out how there could be much more evidence to link Oswald to this crime.
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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2021, 08:25:21 PM »
The so called "selective service" card with the name Alek James Hidell is no selective service card....and it isn't even close to being a good copy of a genuine draft card.    Lee would have known that it was a federal crime to create a forgery or alter a real draft card.   Therefore when he created the Hidell card he was very careful that the card didn't even resemble a real draft card.

Making a bad forgery is a defense to forgery?  Keep them coming Walt. 

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Re: SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2021, 10:02:28 PM »
Making a bad forgery is a defense to forgery?  Keep them coming Walt.

There was no forgery.....