SURPLUS CARCANO MODEL 91 TS RIFLE 6.5X52MM - USED SURPLUS CONDITION

[John Iacoletti]

Simple....  Lee had used the name AJ Hidell as the president of the New Orleans chapter of the FPFCC ....

New York headquarters would very likely have wanted to know who they were dealing with in New Orleans....( A highly unlikely place to establish a FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE )    Thus they probably would send any material by registered mail...and that would require an Identification and a signature at the PO.   Lee created that silly rendition of a "draft card" to identify himself as AJ Hidell.

Are you suggesting then that Lee made this ID card in New Orleans?

[Richard Smith]

Simple....  Lee had used the name AJ Hidell as the president of the New Orleans chapter of the FPFCC ....

New York headquarters would very likely have wanted to know who they were dealing with in New Orleans....( A highly unlikely place to establish a FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA COMMITTEE )    Thus they probably would send any material by registered mail...and that would require an Identification and a signature at the PO.   Lee created that silly rendition of a "draft card" to identify himself as AJ Hidell.

I'm not asking what you think he used it for.  I'm asking why you indicated that Oswald created a fake ID card not to look like the real thing.  Typically, if someone is going to make a fake ID, they want it to look as authentic as possible.  That is the whole point.  Why would anyone create a fake ID to intentionally not make it look like the real thing and risk being caught for that reason?

[Walt Cakebread]

Are you suggesting then that Lee made this ID card in New Orleans?

That's one possibility....   However he might have made it when he needed ID to pick up rifle at the P.O.

And Yes I do believe he ordered the rifle....Although since he didn't have the funds to purchase the rifle. I believe that De M bought the postal MO and sent the order off to Kleins.   

I have no problem accepting that Le filled out the order form and the rifle was sent to his PO box....Big Deal...   There was no plot to murder JFK at that time....  Lee and DeM ordered the rifle to use as a throw down gun at the Walker residence....And in fact it was used as a throw down gun ...but the cops never even looked for a weapon ....Because they smelled a publicity stunt being perpetrated but since Walker was a high profile citizen in Dallas they felt they had to act as though they were investigating the shooting.

I believe that it was the Walker hoax that set the stage for Lee to become the patsy in the coup d e'tat.

[Walt Cakebread]

I'm not asking what you think he used it for.  I'm asking why you indicated that Oswald created a fake ID card not to look like the real thing.  Typically, if someone is going to make a fake ID, they want it to look as authentic as possible.  That is the whole point.  Why would anyone create a fake ID to intentionally not make it look like the real thing and risk being caught for that reason?

Typically, if someone is going to make a fake ID, they want it to look as authentic as possible.

For you information Mr "Smith" ....   Many of the investigators refer to that silly rendition as a "Selective Service Card....Clearly that card fooled many who should have known that it was not even close to an actual draft card.    Anybody who has ever carried a Draft card knows that a draft card does NOT have a photo on it.     Lee wanted that photo on that card so the viewer ( like a postal clerk) would know instantly that the bearer was in fact Alek James Hidell.

[John Iacoletti]

That's one possibility....   However he might have made it when he needed ID to pick up rifle at the P.O.

Too bad there isn’t any evidence that Oswald (or anyone else) ever picked up any rifle at any P.O.

And Yes I do believe he ordered the rifle....Although since he didn't have the funds to purchase the rifle. I believe that De M bought the postal MO and sent the order off to Kleins.   

I have no problem accepting that Le filled out the order form and the rifle was sent to his PO box....Big Deal...   There was no plot to murder JFK at that time....  Lee and DeM ordered the rifle to use as a throw down gun at the Walker residence....And in fact it was used as a throw down gun ...but the cops never even looked for a weapon ....Because they smelled a publicity stunt being perpetrated but since Walker was a high profile citizen in Dallas they felt they had to act as though they were investigating the shooting.

I believe that it was the Walker hoax that set the stage for Lee to become the patsy in the coup d e'tat.

Cool story, bro!

[Walt Cakebread]

Too bad there isn’t any evidence that Oswald (or anyone else) ever picked up any rifle at any P.O.

Cool story, bro!

John, If we could go back in time....I'd bet you a steak dinner that PO Inspector Holmes DID have a record ( probably a photo record) of the person who picked up the Carcano at the PO.    There are two people high on my list of the person who picked up the Carcano at the PO.   Georgie, or his wife Jeannie......  But that info was dumped when  they were working on framing Lee Oswald.  It's unrealistic to believe that Hoover wasn't keeping tabs on the Oswald's and when a commie receives a rifle through the mail you can bet that Hoover would have been notified.

I realize that this is speculation...but it's not without evidence ( the fact that Lee couldn't have been at the PO to buy the MO or mail it from a couple of miles away ...Nor did he have the funds to buy that MO.....And there is a small mountain of evidence that Lee and George were talkin about General Walker.... and in a derisive manner....

[Walt Cakebread]

Just because the FPCC card had "AJ Hidell" on it doesn't mean that Lee was using that as a name for himself and it didn't refer to somebody else.

John, You know in your heart that Lee wouldn't have had that Hidell if he wasn't using it....  I'd hasten to remind you that intel agents routinely use an alias , ...And Lee was an intel agent.   ( Who was he working for....?)

I believe that Lee thought he was working for RFK....and he saw no problem in working for the FBI at the same time.

I also have no problem believing that Lee ordered the Carcano From Kleins......   And he definitely had a carcano in his possession in April of 1963.   All of this is negated by the FACT that the Carcano was NOT the murder weapon....and In fact it was not even fired that day.   That Carcano was buried beneath boxes of books at the time of the murder.