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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #136 on: February 17, 2021, 10:43:29 PM »
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I agree he is just blowing smoke up his wife's ass.

Does she have to pay extra for that?

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The circumstances that occur later have nothing to do with that what he states before the motorcade arrives. When he tries the same story with the WC he is shown to be repeatedly making the whole story up.

You couldn't be more wrong.
The basic description of the rifleman he gives to his wife is the same as the one he gives in his affidavit is the same one he gives to the WC.

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He does not describe anyone. He describes this person as a heavy 200 lb  slender man that weighs approximately 140 lbs end he is either tall or maybe not.   He describes an individual standing with his left hand on the upper rifle stock with both his left hand and elbow at shoulder height. He then goes on to describe the rifle as pointing to the wall. Which is impossible because the wall is to his right not left.

Don't forget, you also think his head is lower than his waist.  ;)

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #137 on: February 17, 2021, 10:46:08 PM »
No and you have the wrong picture. The window is only 14 " high. Specter knew that and let Arnold prattle on.

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How high do you think the window in the picture is?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #138 on: February 17, 2021, 10:59:15 PM »
From Agent James Hosty's contemporaneous notes taken during Mr Oswald's first interrogation (which started 3:15pm, 11/22)-------------



Like most people, I long assumed Mr Oswald talked merely about a rifle which he had seen (and which, it was later established, belonged to Mr Warren Caster), rather than any particular rifle. However, I was knocked for six when I recently came across this FBI interview report for Mr Roy Truly from 11/22-----------



"the rifle"

Did Captain Fritz confront Mr Oswald with the Carcano, and did Mr Oswald claim he had seen Mr Truly with it two days ago?

The problem with that scenario is that Lt Carl Day said he locked the Carcano away in an evidence box in the Identification Bureau at around 2pm, returned to the Depository around 2:45pm, and didn't unlock the evidence box again until around 7pm that evening. It is hard to see how Captain Fritz could have shown Mr Oswald the Carcano during that first interrogation session......

Given that the first Caster rifle mentioned in the Truly interview report above ("a ___________ rifle") was in fact a Mauser, I think it's fair to ask: Was Mr Oswald shown a Mauser rifle during that first interrogation?

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So!

------------Mr Oswald is shown the rifle and says he saw Mr Truly holding it (or one just like it) two days ago

------------Mr Truly confirms that he held a deer hunting "_________________ rifle" belonging to Mr Warren Caster

------------Mr Caster confirms the story and fills in the missing part: "a .30-06 sporterized Mauser"

------------Mr Arnold Rowland sees a rifle in the hands of a man on the sixth floor some 15 minutes before the assassination and says it looks like "a 30-odd (aught) size 6, a deer rifle with a fairly large or powerful scope"

------------For the first hours after the assassination, all DPD tell the world about is a Mauser rifle found at the scene of the crime

Interesting!

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #139 on: February 17, 2021, 11:06:45 PM »
So!

------------Mr Oswald is shown the rifle and says he saw Mr Truly holding it (or one just like it) two days ago

------------Mr Truly confirms that he held a deer hunting "_________________ rifle" belonging to Mr Warren Caster

------------Mr Caster confirms the story and fills in the missing part: "a .30-06 sporterized Mauser"

------------Mr Arnold Rowland sees a rifle in the hands of a man on the sixth floor some 15 minutes before the assassination and says it looks like "a 30-odd (aught) size 6, a deer rifle with a fairly large or powerful scope"

------------For the first hours after the assassination, all DPD tell the world about is a Mauser rifle found at the scene of the crime

Interesting!

Add to that Congressman Roberts' exclamation at the time of the shooting - " "That is a .30-06."

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #140 on: February 17, 2021, 11:19:56 PM »
Add to that Congressman Roberts' exclamation at the time of the shooting - " "That is a .30-06."

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2021, 01:02:27 AM »
Friendly reminder! Those who wish to say that Mr Oswald must have been shown the Carcano must explain away Lt. Day's statement that the Carcano at this time was locked away in the evidence box, and not brought out again until ~7pm that evening

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2021, 01:14:44 AM »
Friendly reminder! Those who wish to say that Mr Oswald must have been shown the Carcano must explain away Lt. Day's statement that the Carcano at this time was locked away in the evidence box, and not brought out again until ~7pm that evening

Oh really..???  What is the time shown on the clock in the famous photo of Day with the rifle held above his head?

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2021, 01:40:07 AM »
Oh really..???  What is the time shown on the clock in the famous photo of Day with the rifle held above his head?

It says 6.15, meaning Lt. Day's 7pm estimate was a bit off. But 6.15pm is still WAY later than Mr Oswald's first interrogation session. And yet he's shown THE rifle.