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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2021, 07:59:50 PM »
That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.

Speaking of ludicrous narratives...

You have done zero to demonstrate that any of these speculative claims are actually true: “his rifle”, “his flight”, “involvement in another murder”, resisting arrest”, “lie about not owning a rifle”.

Garbage in - garbage out.
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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #176 on: February 28, 2021, 08:03:31 PM »
That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.  Your baseless fantasy with the shirt is unnecessary and ridiculous to convict.   And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.  It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.  The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.  And that rifle was used to commit the crime.  But perhaps that is more than you can absorb.

Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt? No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.

Well, they did go to the extreme length of actually taking out the shirt to Bledsoe's house. What possible reason could they have had for influencing a witness in that way?

And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.

But that was the point of the exercise; to support the conclusion that Oswald had been wearing the shirt that day!

It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.

No it doesn't actually. Not by using your own "logic", when all they could say is that the fibers could have come from Oswald's shirt and when it is possible for those fibers could have gotten on the rifle "on a prior occassion"

The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.

I probably won't get a straight answer (again) but I'll ask anyway. What evidence exactly links Oswald to the rifle?

And that rifle was used to commit the crime.

Really? And your evidence for that is... what exactly?

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2021, 08:21:29 PM »
And that rifle was used to commit the crime.

Really? And your evidence for that is... what exactly?

It’s just more of that famous “Richard” speculation bus.

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2021, 08:31:20 PM »
That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.  Your baseless fantasy with the shirt is unnecessary and ridiculous to convict.   And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.  It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.  The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.  And that rifle was used to commit the crime.  But perhaps that is more than you can absorb.

Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt

Because they had skewered themselves on their own foil when Hoover announced that his FBI lab had found a tuft of fibers from the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested.   That was a gargantuan lie because Lee was not wearing that shirt at the TSBD that morning.   But the FBI had to trick the senile Mrs Bledsoe into confirming that she saw the shirt when Lee was wearing it on the bus just minutes after the murder.

Can you understand it now ??..... If not, maybe someone will dumb it down better so perhaps you can understand, Mr "Smith"

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #179 on: February 28, 2021, 10:19:44 PM »
Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt

Because they had skewered themselves on their own foil when Hoover announced that his FBI lab had found a tuft of fibers from the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested.   That was a gargantuan lie because Lee was not wearing that shirt at the TSBD that morning.   But the FBI had to trick the senile Mrs Bledsoe into confirming that she saw the shirt when Lee was wearing it on the bus just minutes after the murder.

Can you understand it now ??..... If not, maybe someone will dumb it down better so perhaps you can understand, Mr "Smith"

HA HA HA.  Try to think for once.  Assume the fetal position in a dark place if that helps.  It is Oswald's rifle.  It is Oswald's shirt.  Simply because they found a "tuft of fiber from the shirt" on the rifle doesn't meant that fiber had to come from that shirt on the day of the assassination.  Maybe it did but it doesn't have too.  Can you understand that obvious fact?  The fiber could have come from Oswald's shirt on some prior occasion.  There is no need to go through the trickery that you have baselessly suggested to fix any problem with the evidence. 

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2021, 10:33:50 PM »
HA HA HA.  Try to think for once.  Assume the fetal position in a dark place if that helps.  It is Oswald's rifle.  It is Oswald's shirt.  Simply because they found a "tuft of fiber from the shirt" on the rifle doesn't meant that fiber had to come from that shirt on the day of the assassination.  Maybe it did but it doesn't have too.  Can you understand that obvious fact?  The fiber could have come from Oswald's shirt on some prior occasion.  There is no need to go through the trickery that you have baselessly suggested to fix any problem with the evidence.

It is Oswald's rifle.

Really?? ....When and where, was proof of ownership presented ?



It is Oswald's shirt.

Yes but it is NOT the shirt that he wore at the TSBD that morning.    How thick is your skull??

Simply because they found a "tuft of fiber from the shirt" on the rifle doesn't meant that fiber had to come from that shirt on the day of the assassination.  Maybe it did but it doesn't have too.  Can you understand that obvious fact? 

Oh boy are you dumb!!....  The FBI said the tuft of fibers were FRESH....

I guess desperation causes stupidity ...... Or are you living proof that there ain't no remedy for stupidity....

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2021, 11:22:24 PM »
HA HA HA.  Try to think for once.  Assume the fetal position in a dark place if that helps.  It is Oswald's rifle. 

HA HA HA.