LHO's shirt

[William Pilgrim]

Do we have a consensus view on what shirt LHO wore on the morning of the assassination?
What type and color was it?
Was it different from the one he wore when he was arrested at the TT? (As the claim is that he changed shirt when he went back to his rooming house in Oak Cliff) 

[Walt Cakebread]

Do we have a consensus view on what shirt LHO wore on the morning of the assassination?
What type and color was it?
Was it different from the one he wore when he was arrested at the TT? (As the claim is that he changed shirt when he went back to his rooming house in Oak Cliff)

Hi William,   I don't know about a consensus view of anything pertaining to the coup d e'tat.... Other than the consensus that JFK was murdered in Dealey Plaza in Dallas on 11/22/63....  However The FACTS and evidence, indicate that Lee did in fact go to his rented room at 1026 N. Beckley at 1:00pm that day, and he changed his clothes.   A  DPD Detective named Potts found the dirty clothes (gray Trousers and reddish brown shirt with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR) in a dresser drawer where Lee put them when he donned his clean clothes.   

[Dan O'meara]

Do we have a consensus view on what shirt LHO wore on the morning of the assassination?
What type and color was it?
Was it different from the one he wore when he was arrested at the TT? (As the claim is that he changed shirt when he went back to his rooming house in Oak Cliff)

Marrion Baker -  "...he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt."

Charles Givens -  "...it was kind of a greenish looking shirt and pants was about the same color as his shirt"

Jeraldean Reid - "... a white T-shirt and some kind of wash trousers"

Not much in the way of consensus.

[Walt Cakebread]

Marrion Baker -  "...he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt."

Charles Givens -  "...it was kind of a greenish looking shirt and pants was about the same color as his shirt"

Jeraldean Reid - "... a white T-shirt and some kind of wash trousers"

Not much in the way of consensus.

Marrion Baker -  "...he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt."

Not pertinent.... Because Baker was thinking of the "DARK haired 165 pound man who he caught walking away from the stairs" and that was NOT Lee Oswald.

Charles Givens -  "...it was kind of a greenish looking shirt and pants was about the same color as his shirt"

Irrelevant .... Because Givens described clothing that Lee didn't even own...there are no such items of clothing among Lee's possessions.

Jeraldean Reid - "... a white T-shirt and some kind of wash trousers"

Sorry, Mrs Reid was mistaken....Because when Lee boarded the city bus all of the people who saw him said that he was wearing an outer shirt.

[William Pilgrim]

Thanks for that Walt,

In the WC testimonies, the witnesses who claim to have met LHO immediately after his departure from the TSBD are the bus driver, the bus passenger and the taxi driver.

The bus driver was unable to provide a description of how LHO was dressed but the latter two make inconsistent claims regarding his clothing.

Both mention a brown shirt and grey pants though Whaley then muddies the water by describing a blue grey jacket, whereas Blesdoe makes no mention of a jacket as she describes the shirt with the right sleeve whole and no buttons.

Both claim that the shirt LHO wore when arrested is the same shirt he wore on the bus and in the taxi, Whaley positively identifies Exhibit 150 and Blesdoe seems to be describing the shirt after LHO had been arrested in TT and the buttons were torn off in the struggle between him and DPD).

It strikes me that it should not have been difficult for law enforcement to determine what clothes LHO was wearing on that morning as his fellow workers would have been able to provide enough details to enable law enforcement to determine what they should be looking for. Was it possible that these clothes when found could be subject to forensic investigation to determine if they had been in worn by someone who had recently used a firearm? 

Did the dirty clothes found by DPD Detective Potts undergo any forensic examination?  If they did what was the results? If they did not, then why not?

[Walt Cakebread]

Thanks for that Walt,

In the WC testimonies, the witnesses who claim to have met LHO immediately after his departure from the TSBD are the bus driver, the bus passenger and the taxi driver.

The bus driver was unable to provide a description of how LHO was dressed but the latter two make inconsistent claims regarding his clothing.

Both mention a brown shirt and grey pants though Whaley then muddies the water by describing a blue grey jacket, whereas Blesdoe makes no mention of a jacket as she describes the shirt with the right sleeve whole and no buttons.

Both claim that the shirt LHO wore when arrested is the same shirt he wore on the bus and in the taxi, Whaley positively identifies Exhibit 150 and Blesdoe seems to be describing the shirt after LHO had been arrested in TT and the buttons were torn off in the struggle between him and DPD).

It strikes me that it should not have been difficult for law enforcement to determine what clothes LHO was wearing on that morning as his fellow workers would have been able to provide enough details to enable law enforcement to determine what they should be looking for. Was it possible that these clothes when found could be subject to forensic investigation to determine if they had been in worn by someone who had recently used a firearm? 

Did the dirty clothes found by DPD Detective Potts undergo any forensic examination?  If they did what was the results? If they did not, then why not?

The police were not interested in providing evidence that would have cleared Lee Oswald....Some of the higher ranking officers knew that Lee was not guilty, and nearly ALL of the cops thought that he had shot and killed one of their fellow officers so they wanted him hanged.

Apparently you failed to notice that the REDDISH BROWN shirt with the BUTTON DOWN COLLAR  that Detective Potts found in Lee's dresser drawer does NOT match the arrest shirt.    Lee told the interrogators that the shirt that he wore that morning was a long sleeved reddish brown shirt with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR .  He changed his clothes in his room at 1:00 pm,  Even a person with poor vision can see that the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was dragged from the theater does NOT have a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR.    Clearly the arrest shirt IS NOT the shirt that Lee wore at the TSBD that morning.

[Alan Ford]

This is the shirt Mr Oswald wore to work that day (credit: Mr Pat Speer)--------------